Ann Coulter said it: We should CONVERT THEM TO CHRISTIANITY!

2/7/05 | consevlib

[AnOldCowhand]

Not to defend the IRA et al, but to claim to have Jesus on your side is quite another issue than to do what they do to force you to believe as they do.

The IRA and that lot started (at least self styled anyway) as "freedom fighters" and are now nothing more than thugs looking for an excuse to kill. I don't believe that their goal, stated or unstated, was ever to make the whole of Ireland worship as Roman Catholics.

I would not say, in any event, that there have not been atrocities in the name of Christ, but that is our doing, not His. In contrast to Islam, the Holy Bible does not advocate, condone nor even suggest conversion by the sword. Conversion can only come through the heart by the work of the Holy Spirit.

[conservlib]

That is too extreme, at least for now. You want to start appealing to the sense of fairness. Of course, they will refuse, and then the whole world will understand and support any alternative measures.

[conservlib]

I agree. First you must appeal to the sense of fairness, and reciprocation of favors. When they refuse in front of the whole world; saying that they have the right to convert us, and will kill any one who attempt to convert them or any Muslim who converts to other faith, then the world will stop thinking that they are the underdog.

[conservlib]

Did you forget the French Algerian war, and the Israeli Palestinian war? Guns do not hurt people who are not afraid of dying for Allah.

[conservlib]

If you disagree to allowing reciprocity of proselyting, you are admitting that you are above every body. That will not win you support anywhere. We must put their feet to the fire, and expose them to the rest of the world who is actually sympathetic to them as the underdog.

[Tennessean4Bush]

If you think that I was joking,

I did not know whether you were joking or not. I was afraid you were not, but held out faint hope that perhaps there was a tongue planted firmly in cheek as you wrote. Alas, all hope is indeed dashed based on your subsequent reply.

or my idea of fighting an idealogical war fare with similar ideas is wrong,

I think doing anything except trying to exterminate these terrorists and the states that support them is "wrong". The war is indeed idealogical, but it is not Muslim versus Christian. It is Muslim extremists versus freedom itself. Any other interpretation of the last few years and the last 3 months especially can be nothing but blindness. Who are the monsters attacking now? Christians? No, they are attacking other Muslims. Why? For nothing other than trying to exercise the right to vote. They realize that freedom is their kryptonite and this is their last stand. Iraq is not the end, but they know it is the beginning of an inexorable and bitter end.

Guns do not scare people who are not afraid to die foe Allah.

Perhaps. But freedom scares the hell out of them, wouldn't you say?

[kAcknor]

I'm stealing that...

A fine FR tradition indeed. How to you suppose I got it? ;)

[rdcorso]

I'm not suggesting that it only be a handful of people but thousands of them dealing with just the facts.They can put the facts out there for anybody interested to look into for themselves.There are a lot of inaccuracies in the Koran that don't come from meaningless words but from the claims that are the core of the religion.If Islam is to be treated on the level of Christianity and Judaism it should be put through the same level of scrutiny as they were.When the process is finished let Islam stand or fall on its own merits.

[Ladysmith]

LOL!

[CHARLITE]

There must be a misunderstanding about my post with the photo of the minaret and the introductory comment. I agree with you entirely. These people must - absolutely MUST - be defeated utterly. Islam must cease to exist. My point was that there is a reason for which they aren't interested in any such proposal that we agree to some kind of mutual, reciprocal format where we can bring the tenets and arguments for our different faiths to their predominantly Muslim countries, since they are doing such "recruiting" all over western Europe and here in America. The reason for their refusal of "reciprocity" derives from the fundamental intolerance and belligerance of Islam for any and all other faiths. It's world conquest that they are after.

"The new Caliphate" wouldn't tolerate Christian missionaries, for example. The very idea is infuriating from their manical point of view. That is why the religious must be discredited into extinction.

If you know Ali Sina of http://www.faithfreedom.org, then you know how he feels - eradication of Islam and all vestiges of it! Nothing less. Ali knows much more than I do about the evils of this blood, murder, mayhem and death cult than I do.

Char :)

[AnOldCowhand]

Quite frankly, it would be easier and far more likely to make a difference if we just eliminated all of them.

The truth has been exposed by so many that I'll not try to name them but it means nothing to a zealot (much less 1 billion of them) that is willing to die, not for his faith, but to kill those disagreeing with his faith.

The only real solution is when Islam ceases to exist.

[conservlib]

((The war is indeed idealogical, but it is not Muslim versus Christian. It is Muslim extremists versus freedom itself))

NO, and NO! You need to read my article again, and reflect on the many responses that I posted. All Muslim countries have official laws forbidding other religions from proselyting to their Muslim citizens. All I am saying is reciprocity of proselytizing can allow people the freedom to convert to whatever faith they chose. Once we started converting some of their citizens, it is in effect taking away the oxygen of their lives. Again, I am not saying that we convert them to Christianity, I am simply saying convert them away from Islam to other faiths, such as Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, atheism, and yes Christianity too, since it is a religion (believe it or not).

[conservlib]

I agree.

[conservlib]

When did you watched 60 minutes last where Mike Wallace was hounding a Mullah about reciprocation of proselytizing? When did our president ever bring that fact of unfair treatment, and the obvious inconsistency between how we respect our Muslim citizens, and the Muslim nations do not respect other faiths! This is the HEART of the matter. Their driving force is to convert others and have the upper hand and never satisfy with equality.

[malakhi]

I'm not going to give in

Which doesn't change the fact that you continue to be incorrect.

[Cronos]

Get real John -- Mecca IS the centre of the faith far more than even Jerusalem is for Jews. You must bow to Mecca, Mecca holds the Ka'aba and since it has not been touched by infidels it perpetuates the myth thatIslam is unstoppable and that it will conquer all

[jan in Colorado]

Ping

[PeterFinn]

The IRA is Marxist-Communist and they often rail at the church. They are not a 'Christian' group by any stretch of the imagination.

Who are these other two groups? I am not familiar with the acronyms.

[PeterFinn]

"Did you forget the French Algerian war, and the Israeli Palestinian war? Guns do not hurt people who are not afraid of dying for Allah."

You're kidding, right? What the hell are you smoking that you think Muslims are magically immune to bullets? You sound like a g--damned Islamofascist with this purile crap.

Why not tell the Japanese that nuclear bombs do not hurt people who are not afaid of dying for the Emperor?

[PeterFinn]

"Get real John -- Mecca IS the centre of the faith far more than even Jerusalem is for Jews. You must bow to Mecca, Mecca holds the Ka'aba and since it has not been touched by infidels it perpetuates the myth thatIslam is unstoppable and that it will conquer all"

Hmmm. One well-placed 1,000 pound bomb would disaffect the Muzzies of this belief.