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To: Rudder
"I was merely giving you some examples of selective pressure leading to speciation. I assumed you'd see the 'predictability' inherent in my rather simplistic statements. Dog breeders (and more) and microbiologists alike are successfully predicting evolutionary outcome as a matter of day-to-day business."

That is still selecting for desired traits within a set. I am more interesed in 'creating a flying pig', as Dawkins would say, without gene-splicing.
Then, I would be more comfortable with proponents of evolution being considered in the 'hard' sciences.
What sets me off is when it is claimed, by inference, that evolution in all aspects is as certain as the sun rising in the east. It is not.

386 posted on 02/05/2005 8:41:28 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe
"What sets me off is when it is claimed, by inference, that evolution in all aspects is as certain as the sun rising in the east. It is not."

Point well taken. I hate it when scientists use evolution as an explanatory device. But, the predictability of evolution is dependent upon knowing the selective pressures of the future. I come up short in that ability.

389 posted on 02/05/2005 8:49:37 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Tench_Coxe
What sets me off is when it is claimed, by inference, that evolution in all aspects is as certain as the sun rising in the east. It is not.

You have just designated youself as a candidate for excommunication from the church of hard science. Doubtless you have never written any peer-reviewed papers in a scientific field. I smell a bible under your belt.

392 posted on 02/05/2005 8:53:51 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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