[Kay Ludlow]

I see the author of this took the same journey I did. We are making some headway in central Pennsylvania on educating people about Agenda 21. DCNR is pushing "PA Wilds" in north central PA, supposedly to promote tourism, but actually a tool to get control of land use and 're-wild' a core bio-reserve. Because the loyal opposition has been spreading the word, DCNR actually mentioned, in one of their 'myths about PA Wilds' brochures, Agenda 21. It was of course in the lying context that any connection between PA Wilds and Agenda 21 was a myth, but it shows that enough people are talking about it that they felt forced to address it.

I do tend to think that most (though not all) of the people implementing this stuff at the local level, state level and even within the bureaucracy really don't understand it either. They think planning councils and visioning sounds like progress - why not break out from the old governmental constraints and really work together for what everyone wants? They don't know about the agenda behind it all. Since I've been to visioning events, I can see how slick the professional facilitators are - they know what THEY are doing!

[sergeantdave]

In fact, we came very close to officially recognizing and implementing Agenda 21 in 1994 when the senate put up the biodiversity treaty for vote.

I, as a few freepers on this post, was skeptical that the UN had a plan to control all land in the US. Then I read the treaty, all 1,044 pages of it.

The treaty was a mish-mash of soft law decrees that ordered the control of American land by law and bureaucratic dictates. Quite simply, it was a fascist document - government control of private property.

After that failed in a senate vote, Clinton started the illegal implementation of this treaty thru the President's Council on Sustainable Development. Many alphabet federal agencies began illegally writing parts of Agenda 21 into their land-use plans.

Clinton and his fascist bureaucrats stole more than a million acres of private property and placed them under federal bureaucratic control via wetland designation, the endangered species act and EPA dictates.

The courts, in a monumental embrace of judicial stupidity, went along with this piracy and called this seizure of private property a "public good." There is no such thing as "public good" in the constitution. It's "public use." Public good is nothing more than the American version of the Marxist "common good."

On the other hand, the courts did give us a few tools to fight these land grabs under Dolan, Nollan, Lucas and First English Evangelical.

And we're getting good, conservative rulings from lower district courts and state courts that will provide ammo to crush Agenda 21. It's up to us to be aware of these lower court rulings and use them against the eco-fascists and their allies in the "smarxist" growth cult.

[B4Ranch]

Go down to a local city council meeting and ask, "What have you been doing to follow the Agenda 21 Plan in the Cities new growth structure? Act as if they arn't doing enough! The more they tell you, seem unsatisfied. They'll tell you more and more. Then expose the whole thing in one shot and knock them off their stools for re-election.