Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21

SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

[farmfriend]

Conservatism is ascendent in this country. The aging watermelons in their environmental wackotanks can churn out all the "plans" they want to.

So you believe but this is also pushed by Republicans. Our wonderful new governor that the party leadership just had to have instead of a real conservative, pushed and signed a bill that turned one 5th of our state into a conservancy. You may not want to believe this is happening but it is. The fact that you fly the New York flag tells me a lot. Wait until the feds alone own more than 50% of your state. It's over 60% here in CA. This is not counting state and local governments. Then you have conservancies buying up even more land or filing lawsuits like the one out in Natomas area that make it so you can't develop your property. Nothing left to do but sell it to a conservancy for a vastly reduced price. There are great articles on this published in the Washington Post, not exactly your bastion of conservatism.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. I do agree it would probably cause a civil war - and they should remember - we have the guns.

Also .. being a Christian who believes in the rapture .. I can see this happening .. but I don't believe I will be here to experience it. It's just my personal belief.

[Spirited]

"If nothing else, some of you need to go to the UN website and read."

There are people here who are hired "spinners" whose purpose is to redirect opinion away from the consideration of serious threats posed by groups who want to stay very invisible.

Warfare has always included belittling sarcasm.

[Free2BeMe]

I read this about the UN and US forests... http://www.abetterearth.org/article.php/796.html
back in September and had completely forgotten about it until now. I wonder if this is part of the plan.

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Yes I do claim that.

The UN is a bunch of incompetent, corrupt buffoons.

Your examples of Rwanda, Sudan, and OilforFood are all sterling examples.

Agenda 21 is just another utopian UN fanstasy that will collapse under the wieght of the UN's corruption and venality.

This thread reads like a transcript from some 1990s militia shortwave radio broadcast.

[familyop]

Hillary's crew doesn't want to bother so much with small time landowners and low income families (nearly extinct, anyway) the next time around. They'll be after larger fish--what they call the "good ol' boys" and "good ol' girls."

Some of the Republican publishers of the '90s know exactly what I'm referring to, as do many others who were attacked with false allegations by the IRS and other offices then.

Did you bother with that Web search, yet, or is it too much effort to do so? Or is the publishing of news about the whole Agenda 21 (and related local efforts) thing against your interests?

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Years back when the Repbulican party was conservative

Oh, you're one of those.

[Free2BeMe]

Heres an excerpt from the article...

"The ITTA, a U.N. measure the United States signed July 1, 1999, and accepted Nov. 14, 1996, created an organization that controls the world’s production (and consumption) of timber. The agreement, overseen and administered by the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development, labels nations as either timber producers or consumers and allots voting quotas based on levels of production versus consumption – with more voting weight granted to the former. The United States, a consumer, therefore does not possess the same ability to control - via ballot - the application of this agreement, as many of the producing nations do (e.g. Indonesia or Malaysia). "

[Gum Shoe]

"We're thumbing out noses at the whole world on this Kyoto BS and the ICC."

Environmental laws and treaties are simply Bolshevik attempts at overcoming the private property traditions found in free societies. They realized that they don't have to own it to control it.

[maine-iac7]

you got it

[spunkets]

Some rep(R) in the GA statehouse is attempting to establish the mechanics in GA now. Private enterprise(orgs) propose projects and work with gov't and w/o giving prior notice, or bids, simply go ahead with the private proposal. The use of emminet domain to enable the public works "proposals" is a key part.

[familyop]

What's happening in U.S. schools?
WorldNetDaily
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27440

"Santa Cruz is one of the first cities to adopt a "Local Agenda 21" program. For 10 years, a local group has been promoting the implementation of Agenda 21 recommendations. Almost every community now has some local group promoting Agenda 21 policies, but using names such as "St. Louis 2004," or "[your town] 2020." These plans focus primarily on planning, open space, zoning, land-use restrictions, heritage sites, and the like. They also contain educational elements, based on Chapters 21 and 25 of Agenda 21."

[A Balrog of Morgoth]

Or is the publishing of news about the whole Agenda 21 (and related local efforts) thing against your interests?

Check out my profile. I'm not fronting for some interest which wishes to remain invisible (yet posts all it's plans on the www). My organization does have a website. It's www.navy.mil. I don't think we're part of this grand conspiracy, but I'll keep my eyes open.

I'd be fascinated to hear some of you alarmists' take on the Iraq War? Is that part of this coordinated effort? A distraction so the UN and Elders of Zion can continue their plan to make Soylent Green a reality in Amerika?

[farmfriend]

BIG GREEN : Inside the Nature Conservancy Nonprofit Land Bank Amasses Billions
Washington Post

Feds seize family's ranch
World Net Daily

An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy
Mark Vande Pol

CA: The California Performance Review: Devolving Constitutional Government in the Golden State
Advance Bulletin

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Bookmarked.

This is the first I've heard of it....thanks.

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

[spunkets]

"Agenda 21 is just another utopian UN fanstasy that will collapse under the wieght of the UN's corruption and venality. "

The weight of the UN's corruption and venality must be what's keeping it pinned down alongside the river there in NY.

[Dat]

You're deep into kook territory now.

[familyop]

Also from WorldNetDaily

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28704
Sustainable development: Erosion of freedom – Part 2 Friday, August 23, 2002 by Henry Lamb -- Terms such as Smart Growth, urban boundaries, greenbelt, brownfield, infill and open space lace the literature of sustainable development. Rarely, however, is the term "Agenda 21" found in this literature, even though it is the document thro ..."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28669
Sustainable development: Erosion of freedom – Part 1 Tuesday, August 20, 2002 by Henry Lamb -- The World Summit on Sustainable Development will convene Aug. 26 to Sept. 4, in Johannesburg, South Africa, to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the birth of "sustainable development." This concept was given life when more than 150 nati ..."

Thanks for the prompt to disseminate this info more often from now on.

And to all others here:

Don't sell your vacant properties to large scale developers. Develop them yourself, sell them to very small business builders, or hold them for your children.

[Free2BeMe]

Why do you think those ordeals were such abject failures? Because the UN doesn't really care about those, it just takes the attention off of their true intentions, world domination. How could we have been so blind? I didn't know it had gone so far. Jeez, I wonder ,looking at the dates, what President's watch all of these plans and agreements were implemented under. I'll give you 3 guesses, and you know the rest.