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To: discostu

>>>It's not like this concept is new, it goes at least as far back as Dinah Shore. <<<

face it - you are one of the very few who thinks the SOTU speech is on par with daytime lazy house wife talk show garbage. and no, i don't watch the cr@p. the SOTU goes back at least as far as.... what? Dinah Shore? LOL




>> There are no coincidences when the cameras are rolling,<<

>>>There is this thing called real life, and whenever it happens in front of a camera it's because somebody staged it.<<<

>>>. The Marine mom has already told us everything we need to know,<<<

i cannot believe the ubsurd statements you continue to make.



ok.... you are an EXPERT on ALL things in tv land. there could be NO other scenario then the one you give (over and over). by the way, could you give me a tip on the next televised horse race? i'd like to put some money on the staged winner.



351 posted on 02/03/2005 2:36:02 PM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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To: sdpatriot

Doesn't bother me that I'm one of the few that understand TV is TV. The SOTU has always been a media event, even when all media was print, it's one of the few opportunities a president gets to talk straight to the American people without interference from the media, they don't get to edit him, truncate him, or "contextualize" him, all they get to do is present him and after the fact discuss him. And because of that the SOTU tends to be the most orchestrated of all presidential events, the one chance a year the president gets to address the people without the media messing with him is a bad time to mess up, and a great time to hit on as many levels as possible. And as time has progressed it's become even more so, at least back in the all print days most papers would print the full text of most speeches, in the modern TV world presidents only get their full speech across on their inaugeration and the SOTU, everything else is soundbited if it's even covered. So the SOTU has to hit on all levels, which means it has to use all the tricks that are available to live TV, and staging emotional introductions is a very popular very effective trick.

Nothing absurd in my statements. Not an expert in all things, not claiming it, but this is a really old trick that gets used every single day in TV. It's easy, it takes a minimum of legwork, and it's incredibly effective.

Interesting that you mention horse races. Sporting events follow the exact same type of staging. Every time they Triple Crown hits TV they're hoping for a horse to win all three. They put the races together, give a strong incentive for the winner of the Derby to race in the Preakness, and if the same horse wins both the Belmont becomes a major show. That's staging, that's the exact level of staging I'm saying happened last night. I'm not saying it was "fixed", in fact I've said quite the opposite many times, but I am saying there was an ideal outcome which they did everything they could within the bounds of moral taste to have happen in front of the cameras and they got lucky. When you put two people together in a specific set of circumstances that's likely to create a predictable and desirable result that's staging, people are predictable enough that you generally don't need to do anymore staging than that, in fact since most people aren't very good actors it's generally a bad thing to do more staging than that because your results will be unconvincing if you're lucky enough to get any results at all.


356 posted on 02/03/2005 2:54:19 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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