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To: PresbyRev
"Why would a book be widely published, available in any decent library or today, of course, online - if it contained 'secrets' meant only for the 'masters'? ? Just wondering."

It's widely available today, but that has not always been so. - The average unbeliever reading it will react like 'ugly biker' and will neither challenge nor analyze, and certainly not "put on the whole armor of God." It is only through the Holy Spirit that this kind of evil can be exposed.

I'm doubtful that these things are a concern to you, but keep on wondering; it's better than just accepting.

324 posted on 02/02/2005 7:53:27 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: editor-surveyor
You don't understand/know nearly as much as you imagine. You see yourself as some kind of "Christian Crusader" against all evils,when,in fact,all you are is a little man,puffed up with your own importance,PRETENDING to know what you don't and PRETENDING to speak for GOD.

You're going to be very surprised,when that Day of Judgment arrives for you,pet. LOL

330 posted on 02/02/2005 8:20:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: editor-surveyor

Do y'all realize that your arguments are like those used by Christians who insist that all Christians should refuse to celebrate Christmas or Easter?

They have pagan roots. Constantine's salvation is questionable - he even kept pagan symbols on his coins after his "conversion". Santa is an anagram for Satan. It's being "of the world"... Trees are about druids... Winter Solstice is worshiping the earth... The name Easter comes from...?
They go on and on.

(The Catholic church itself is considered pagan and related to all sorts of weird and evil things by its detractors. You'd think they would understand how things can be twisted.)

Cannot the Masons be allowed to be Masons for reasons of their own without having you tell them what they are *really* doing?

Spend a day with someone who is convicted that your ways are wrong because of something they know about it that you consider mistaken, twisted, or irrelevant, and perhaps you'll understand why Paul talked about spiritual maturity and convictions over eating meat.


331 posted on 02/02/2005 8:38:45 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: editor-surveyor

Reading through your comments, such as they are, to the end of this thread; You fail to answer questions put to you. An easy one - to which denomination do you adhere?

Much like one anti-Masonic poster who claimed to have been a Mason but couldn't recall what office he held nor even respond to the question as to Lodge membership -- passing strange indeed.

You obviously buy into the centuries old conspiracy theory about a plot for global domination by Masons.

Those claims are debunked at http://www.masonicinfo.com

The foundation for your convictions is, as nopardons has pointed out, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Do you believe that document is authentic?

Islamists and Islamic terrorists hate Freemasonry with a passion? Islamists denounce Freemasonry and attack Masons and Lodges. Islamists hate Freemasonry for the same reasons that hate America - think about it. (I'll even give you a hint: freedom, liberty, liberty of the individual conscience, religious freedom, toleration for religious minorities in a given society, opposition to all forms of tyranny, a belief in the equal dignity and worth of all human beings, a desire to see those who suffer helped, etc.).

The anti-Masons on this thread (per usual) are offered fact, substantiated and documented; as well as credible personal testimony by Masons. The anti-Masons simply ignore fact and reply with continued conspiracy theories, ad hominem attacks, straw men, innuendo, condescension and insults.

Every 'Anti-Mason' thread on FR always seems to pan out exactly the same way. It is really very telling.


351 posted on 02/03/2005 6:33:03 AM PST by PresbyRev
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To: editor-surveyor

You earlier posted that Tubal-Cain was the first witch mentioned in the Holy Bible. Can you give me the scripture in the Bible that specifically identifies him as such?


353 posted on 02/03/2005 7:18:57 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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