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To: mississippi red-neck
My problem starts when some one who is supposed to be a scientist someone who is supposed to seek the truth starts to promote theory as absolute truth or disagrees with the beliefs of another simply because it doesn't agree with his personal bias's.

I'll agree with you 100% there. But since I don't know any scientists who actually do that, I don't see how that's relevant here. And yes, I've seen the anti-evolutionist mantra that this is somehow common among scientists or ubuitous among evolutionists or whatever -- it's horse manure.

On the other hand, do *not* expect me or anyone else with a working brain to sit idly by and let some arrogant empty-headed ass prattle on saying things that are COMPLETE FALSEHOODS in his smug attempt to prop up his own beliefs by telling childish untruths about someone *else's* position which he finds somehow threatening to his own.

I'm not naive enough to believe that I have "absolute truth", but I sure as hell know how to recognize absolute horsecrap when it's being flung in my face, or when someone's making false accusations that even his OWN SOURCE MATERIAL doesn't support, or making claims in DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO REALITY, and so on.

Quite frankly, the only folks I see claiming to have "absolute truth" while outrageously lying in order to attack people "because they don't agree with his personal biases" are the anti-evolutionists. (Well, okay, and liberals.) And you don't have to go farther than this *one* thread for multiple examples.

I don't fault anyone for holding different positions than I do. But I'm not about to let anyone smear horsecrap in my face and tell me they're gracing me with rose petals, and that *I'm* the one hauling around bags of manure and stinking up the room.

The anti-evolutionists have built a whole edifice upon attacking all of evolutionary biology as "lies, all lies", and its adherents and practitioners as "liars, all liars" -- while the anti-evolutionists themselves tell one outrageous whopper after another due to their nearly complete ignorance of the *actual* field they're attacking (not their cartoon caricature of it), and their amazing lack of concern for standards of truth or evidence (again, just look over this thread for examples at hand).

I've frankly had quite enough of it.

A large amount of the content of the Bible has been proved true by archaeologist in the last couple hundred years . [megasnip] Even if you choose not to believe that there is a God it is a fascinating study of history and a people's struggle and accurate predictions that will astound.

I appreciate your beliefs, and have no desire to debate them if you find them of value.

But nothing you've said changes the points I've made on this thread regarding the robust state of evolutionary biology, and the shockingly unethical behavior of those who make a habit of attacking it without knowing nearly as much as they think they do in their arrogance -- and much of what they do "know" is flat wrong.

774 posted on 01/30/2005 10:53:42 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
On the other hand, do *not* expect me or anyone else with a working brain to sit idly by and let some arrogant empty-headed ass prattle on saying things that are COMPLETE FALSEHOODS in his smug attempt to prop up his own beliefs by telling childish untruths about someone *else's* position which he finds somehow threatening to his own.

I guess our discussion is over. I in no way feel my positon threathened. Perhaps you do. I'm sorry if I upset you.

777 posted on 01/30/2005 11:38:16 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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