Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative
Dirty tricks I tell you.
If you can't or won't meet the standards of science, you don't get to call what you're doing "science". Millions of people all over the world manage to live up to that - it only seems to be a select crew of lawyers and theologians that can't seem to manage it around here, and so they demand that science be revised to include theological lawyering. Sorry, but no. Maybe they can come up with some new term for what they do, but "science" is already in use elsewhere.
What Ichneumon tends to present on these threads is far from simple. The occasions where I've tried to comprehend the expositions have begged the question: How do you know?
I do not want to disparage anyone's intelligence, much less those who give their best shot at interpeting the universe and attempt to explain it through natural causes, though I am sure there are cases where my own emotions have resulted in evidence to the contrary. And no, I do not expect an entire discipline to be presented in a paragraph or two.
Frankly, I do not see how the philosophy of evolution can make a strong case without resorting to mental constructs of history, thereby placing itself outside basic, empirical science.
On another note, I do not understand the concern that YEC-types and Evolutionists cannot share the same goals in civil matters and still win they day when it comes to Democrats. I am not at all embarassed to have adherents of the philosphy of evoltution on my side where good government is concerned. What gives?
Unless your reading a gender neutral text.
A definition is a first postulate, too. BTW -- Lines are even stranger in differential geometry -- one gives up on their "line-ness" and instead calls them paths.
All the creationists have to do is to make up some good modules for the religion and philosophy classes discussing ID and take their stickers out of the science class and we can all get along. But we know that the real goal for the creationists is to get evolution out of the science class and that is the problem.
Uh, you mean that "God's Word" has been altered?
What the heck is that?
You would be surprised how many Liberal Jews support the war in Iraq. Steven Spielberg for instance. Most of the Jewish vote Bush got came from those agreeing with Bush's desire to protect the only free loving Democracy in the region.
Christians support Israel because God chose the Jews as the vessel by which He revealed Himself to us. And Jesus loved the Jews; being one Himself.
Click on it!
You evaded the question.
Without the origin of life, there is could never be an origin of species.
Sort of like putting the cart before the horse.
It has been about 35 years since this neurotransmitter was activated for me. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that if my brain misfired once, it would again ? Or is the cause and effect in reverse. Is the presence of the neurtansmitter related to the experience ? Is there a physical change being created by a spiritual experience ?
We do know that when people meditate they can change their body chemistry. The bible calls for loving God with our hearts, minds and souls. Its clear even to nonreligious folks that all are connected. So, which is it. Can the effect of a NDE create chemical changes ? Can God use chemistry ?
You mean sort of like how we study how antibiotics kill bacteria before we understand where bacteria first came from ...
Can man create God?
Your dear Mr. Meyer proposes that since science cannot fully explain creation and evolution, that there must be another force, ID working and that evolutionary theory is therefore invalid.
I propose to you, that since you cannot fully explain God, that there must be another explanation and that is that man invented God and that your 'theory' of God is therefore invalid.
You really do have a hair trigger about scripture, don't you and a lack of a sense of humor?
Listen, there are numerous reproductions or scrolls that have the original Hebrew. Translating a document into the English language requires interpretation. It requires understanding the original Hebrew as well as understanding English. Also, as we change the meaning of words even during our lifetimes, the understanding of older translations become difficult.
Congratulations, you win the bigot of the day award.
Men create gods all the time and have more than one. Science for example is a god for many men, as is religion, as is money, as is power just to name a few.
Can man create truth ? No. Truth exists apart from ourselves. Can we know what is true ? Yes, but only through the testimony of witnesses. Can God himself be a witness ? Yes, the triune God can testify and witness to us.
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