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crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: Right Wing Professor
I'm not attributing motives, because I really don't know why one would want to hedge on a matter like this.

Is that a joke?

1,201 posted on 02/01/2005 10:58:04 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey; betty boop
I made the mistake in believing the word of a Christian.

That, Mr. WildTurkey, is what many of us would call a personally abusive remark. betty boop's integrity is well established on this forum. I am Christian too, she is like a sister to me and thus, the remark is also personally offensive to me.

1,202 posted on 02/01/2005 10:58:55 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Right Wing Professor; Alamo-Girl; WildTurkey; marron
The two are irreconcilable, and they do refer to the same thing; the age of the Earth.

No, the 6000 figure refers, not to the age of the Earth, but to the lapse of time from the ensoulment of Adam to the present. BTW, the 6000 figure isn't necessarily incompatible with Darwin's theory, even though Darwin expressed no interest whatever in "souls."

1,203 posted on 02/01/2005 11:00:44 AM PST by betty boop
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To: 2AtHomeMom
I am interested in variations in population growth, but demonstrated why they are not evidence of evolution.

Respectfully, you demonstrated no such thing. First of all, I don't recall anyone using population growth as an evidence of evolution.

Secondly, your population growth calculation was fundamentally flawed in many ways. One way that it was flawed is that it totally disregarded population limiting factors. Maybe you felt that these limiting factors were built in to your growth rate factor? If so, that is a huge mistake.

Your posts are cluttered with statements like "I demonstrated" or "I proved" but, respectfully, you have done no such thing.

1,204 posted on 02/01/2005 11:05:28 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta; Alamo-Girl; WildTurkey; Right Wing Professor; marron
What changes would you propose for a show like "Walking with Dinosaurs"?

I dunno, Jeff. When I was a kid, all the dinosaurs in all my books were gray, like modern rhinos and hippos. To me, it doesn't matter a whit whether you make 'em gray, purple with pink dots, or chartreuse, provided there is a footnote nearby that states, "we really don't know what color the dinosaurs were, and from this great distance in time, it is impossible to find out. But we liked these colors...."

1,205 posted on 02/01/2005 11:05:45 AM PST by betty boop
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To: 2AtHomeMom
When we read in the inertial theory that a resting body continues resting, it predicts the next body you see resting will continue resting.

Since you have written so extensively on theories, perhaps you should be aware that it is not the inertial theory. It is Newton's First LAW of motion.

I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

1,206 posted on 02/01/2005 11:05:56 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Is that a joke?

No. I'm a binary thinker. I suppose one might want to stay 'in' with both camps, but given the fairly implacable hostility between the camps, I would think that's a waste of time.

1,207 posted on 02/01/2005 11:06:18 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: Alamo-Girl; WildTurkey
...the remark is also personally offensive to me....

I'm sorry, Alamo-Girl; but let's just let it pass. WT doesn't know of what he speaks. I guess.

1,208 posted on 02/01/2005 11:08:28 AM PST by betty boop
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To: Alamo-Girl
That, Mr. WildTurkey, is what many of us would call a personally abusive remark. betty boop's integrity is well established on this forum. I am Christian too, she is like a sister to me and thus, the remark is also personally offensive to me.

Not with me. She made an offer and I replied "Fair enough" and complied with the terms of her offer. Only after multiple postings and responses after leading me on, she declares her commitment "a joke". That leads to ZERO credibility. Thank you. I was on to your game from your first post.

1,209 posted on 02/01/2005 11:09:13 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: betty boop
I'm sorry, Alamo-Girl; but let's just let it pass. WT doesn't know of what he speaks. I guess.

Integrity, honesty. Sorry if those are foreign concepts. Maybe dishonesty and deception are more familiar. Granted, those are the tools of the anti-evolutionists.

1,210 posted on 02/01/2005 11:10:44 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Sorry. My bad. I made the mistake in believing the word of a Christian.

As hard as it is to believe, some of us on the science side of this debate are also Christians and are offended by such a statement.

The debate is difficult but that's no reason to abandon good manners. There are lots of lurkers watching. ;)

1,211 posted on 02/01/2005 11:11:33 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: betty boop
No, the 6000 figure refers, not to the age of the Earth, but to the lapse of time from the ensoulment of Adam to the present.

You're now speaking for yourself. The biblical literalists here on FR, and elsewhere, clearly state that it's the age of the earth.

BTW, the 6000 figure isn't necessarily incompatible with Darwin's theory, even though Darwin expressed no interest whatever in "souls."

But, stipulating said ensoulment, are we all descendants of Adam, or can souls be laterally transferred? You must be aware human population genetics are incompatible with common ancestry as recent as 6000 years. Aborigines have been in Australia for far more than 6000 years.

1,212 posted on 02/01/2005 11:11:53 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: Alamo-Girl
I am Christian too, she is like a sister to me and thus, the remark is also personally offensive to me.

We get all sorts of insults to atheists here; probably a new thread about once a week. We killed 100 million people in the last century, you know, and inspired Stalin, Hitler and Michael Jackson.

You learn to ignore most of them, though I do like to taunt some of the worst insulters.

1,213 posted on 02/01/2005 11:15:23 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
As hard as it is to believe, some of us on the science side of this debate are also Christians and are offended by such a statement.

Didn't mean to offend all Christians. I was raised a Christian and Baptized at the age of seven. My comment (probably a little crudely put) was based on my frustration of the "Christians" (in quotes because I do not believe they are true to Christian morals) continually lie and deceive on these threads. My intent was to call them on the sincerity of there Christianity instead of insulting Christianity.

OTOH, I do not consider Christianity particulary superior to some other spiritual concepts and I detest Christians that consider their position "more holy" than others.

1,214 posted on 02/01/2005 11:17:27 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Right Wing Professor
You learn to ignore most of them, though I do like to taunt some of the worst insulters.

Yep, as in "Turn the other cheek"

8^)

1,215 posted on 02/01/2005 11:18:44 AM PST by The SISU kid (I'd rather be a doubting Thomas, than a touting dumb-ass)
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To: betty boop
"we really don't know what color the dinosaurs were, and from this great distance in time, it is impossible to find out. But we liked these colors...."

That is what "Walking with Dinosaurs" did - there was a segment explaining the fossil evidence before every commercial break. There were many such segments, each covering different aspects of the fossil evidence, so each one was only shown once.

In this particular case, the colors weren't just ones that the liked, a lot of thought was put into them. They may not be correct but they are very informed guesses and were properly disclosed as just that.

1,216 posted on 02/01/2005 11:19:33 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: WildTurkey; Alamo-Girl; Right Wing Professor
...[dishonesty and deception] are the tools of the anti-evolutionists.

Sheesh, WildTurkey! (There you go again.)

OK; if you say so.... (Talk about Hysterical Darwinites Panicking....)

1,217 posted on 02/01/2005 11:19:38 AM PST by betty boop
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To: Right Wing Professor; Alamo-Girl

You missed "racist". That one was "offered" to me earlier in this thread.


1,218 posted on 02/01/2005 11:21:31 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
I must speak up here. WildTurkey, I've been in these threads for a long time. Betty boop and I have had our philosophical disagreements, and maybe a spat or two, but she's never exhibited the behavior of those who run around posting (and, alas, re-posting) the same old discredited junk. Nor does she lie. Agree with her or not, but she's a straight shooter.

I understand that you've been tangling with some ridiculous creationist types, and I know how it can get to you, but you shouldn't let that affect your reaction to BB.

1,219 posted on 02/01/2005 11:21:44 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Agree with her or not, but she's a straight shooter.

You must have missed the part where the two of us engaged in a civil discourse about how to move the debate to a high level, she made an offer and I said "fair enough". After many back and forths, I finally concluded she was not serious in comlying and when I confronted her with my conclusion, she declared:

It was a Joke!

Not a straigt shooter in my book.

1,220 posted on 02/01/2005 11:25:42 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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