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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

Panicked Evolutionists: The Stephen Meyer Controversy

The theory of evolution is a tottering house of ideological cards that is more about cherished mythology than honest intellectual endeavor. Evolutionists treat their cherished theory like a fragile object of veneration and worship--and so it is. Panic is a sure sign of intellectual insecurity, and evolutionists have every reason to be insecure, for their theory is falling apart.

The latest evidence of this panic comes in a controversy that followed a highly specialized article published in an even more specialized scientific journal. Stephen C. Meyer, Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, wrote an article accepted for publication in Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article, entitled "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," was published after three independent judges deemed it worthy and ready for publication. The use of such judges is standard operating procedure among "peer-reviewed" academic journals, and is considered the gold standard for academic publication.

The readership for such a journal is incredibly small, and the Biological Society of Washington does not commonly come to the attention of the nation's journalists and the general public. Nevertheless, soon after Dr. Meyer's article appeared, the self-appointed protectors of Darwinism went into full apoplexy. Internet websites and scientific newsletters came alive with outrage and embarrassment, for Dr. Meyer's article suggested that evolution just might not be the best explanation for the development of life forms. The ensuing controversy was greater than might be expected if Dr. Meyer had argued that the world is flat or that hot is cold.

Eugenie C. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, told The Scientist that Dr. Meyer's article came to her attention when members of the Biological Society of Washington contacted her office. "Many members of the society were stunned about the article," she told The Scientist, and she described the article as "recycled material quite common in the intelligent design community." Dr. Scott, a well known and ardent defender of evolutionary theory, called Dr. Meyer's article "substandard science" and argued that the article should never have been published in any scientific journal.

Within days, the Biological Society of Washington, intimidated by the response of the evolutionary defenders, released a statement apologizing for the publication of the article. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the society's governing council claimed that the article "was published without the prior knowledge of the council." The statement went on to declare: "We have met and determined that all of us would have deemed this paper inappropriate for the pages of the Proceedings." The society's president, Roy W. McDiarmid, a scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey, blamed the article's publication on the journal's previous editor, Richard Sternberg, who now serves as a fellow at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institute of Health. "My conclusion on this," McDiarmid said, "was that it was a really bad judgment call on the editor's part."

What is it about Dr. Stephen Meyer's paper that has caused such an uproar? Meyer, who holds a Ph.D. from Cambridge University, argued in his paper that the contemporary form of evolutionary theory now dominant in the academy, known as "Neo-Darwinism," fails to account for the development of higher life forms and the complexity of living organisms. Pointing to what evolutionists identify as the "Cambrian explosion," Meyer argued that "the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans" cannot be accounted for by Darwinian theory, "neo" or otherwise.

Accepting the scientific claim that the Cambrian explosion took place "about 530 million years ago," Meyer went on to explain that the "remarkable jump in the specified complexity or 'complex specified information' [CSI] of the biological world" cannot be explained by evolutionary theory.

The heart of Dr. Meyer's argument is found in this scientifically-loaded passage: "Neo-Darwinism seeks to explain the origin of new information, form, and structure as a result of selection acting on randomly arising variation at a very low level within the biological hierarchy, mainly, within the genetic text. Yet the major morphological innovations depend on a specificity of arrangement at a much higher level of the organizational hierarchy, a level that DNA alone does not determine. Yet if DNA is not wholly responsible for body plan morphogenesis, then DNA sequences can mutate indefinitely, without regard to realistic probabilistic limits, and still not produce a new body plan. Thus, the mechanism of natural selection acting on random mutations in DNA cannot in principle generate novel body plans, including those that first arose in the Cambrian explosion."

In simpler terms, the mechanism of natural selection, central to evolutionary theory, cannot possibly account for the development of so many varied and complex life forms simply by mutations in DNA. Rather, some conscious design--thus requiring a Designer--is necessary to explain the emergence of these life forms.

In the remainder of his paper, Meyer attacks the intellectual inadequacies of evolutionary theory and argues for what is now known as the "design Hypothesis." As he argued, "Conscious and rational agents have, as a part of their powers of purposive intelligence, the capacity to design information-rich parts and to organize those parts into functional information-rich systems and hierarchies." As he went on to assert, "We know of no other causal entity or process that has this capacity." In other words, the development of the multitude of higher life forms found on the planet can be explained only by the guidance of a rational agent--a Designer--whose plan is evident in the design.

Meyer's article was enough to cause hysteria in the evolutionists' camp. Knowing that their theory lacks intellectual credibility, the evolutionists respond by raising the volume, offering the equivalent of scientific shrieks and screams whenever their cherished theory is criticized--much less in one of their own cherished journals. As Dr. John West, Associate Director of the Discovery Institute explained, "Instead of addressing the paper's argument or inviting counterarguments or rebuttal, the society has resorted to affirming what amounts to a doctrinal statement in an effort to stifle scientific debate. They're trying to stop scientific discussion before it even starts."

When the Biological Society of Washington issued its embarrassing apology for publishing the paper, the organization pledged that arguments for Intelligent Design "will not be addressed in future issues of the Proceedings," regardless of whether the paper passes peer review.

From the perspective of panicked evolutionists, the Intelligent Design movement represents a formidable adversary and a constant irritant. The defenders of Intelligent Design are undermining evolutionary theory at multiple levels, and they refuse to go away. The panicked evolutionists respond with name-calling, labeling Intelligent Design proponents as "creationists," thereby hoping to prevent any scientific debate before it starts.

Intelligent Design is not tantamount to the biblical doctrine of creation. Theologically, Intelligent Design falls far short of requiring any affirmation of the doctrine of creation as revealed in the Bible. Nevertheless, it is a useful and important intellectual tool, and a scientific movement with great promise. The real significance of Intelligent Design theory and its related movement is the success with which it undermines the materialistic and naturalistic worldview central to the theory of evolution.

For the Christian believer, the Bible presents the compelling and authoritative case for God's creation of the cosmos. Specifically, the Bible provides us with the ultimate truth concerning human origins and the special creation of human beings as the creatures made in God's own image. Thus, though we believe in more than Intelligent Design, we certainly do not believe in less. We should celebrate the confusion and consternation now so evident among the evolutionists. Dr. Stephen Meyer's article--and the controversy it has spawned--has caught evolutionary scientists with their intellectual pants down.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr


TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: Right Wing Professor; Alamo-Girl; marron; WildTurkey; Ichneumon
...you aren't going to recalibrate 4.7 billion down to six thousand....

But why would I want to do that, RWP? Are you attributing "motives" to me? Actually, I'm quite comfortable with that 4.7 billion figure; I'm also quite comfortable with the six-thousand figure. The two figures do not refer to the same thing.

1,181 posted on 02/01/2005 10:23:11 AM PST by betty boop
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To: WildTurkey; Alamo-Girl; Right Wing Professor; Ichneumon; marron
Every comment was well considered to duck her original stated intent.

Ah! You are imputing motives to me, too, WildTurkey! What is it with you guys? You could just read very carefully what I wrote and try to understand what I said. Then you'd probably notice that I wasn't attempting to "duck" anything. If, after having reviewed my arguments, you disagree with me, then fine. There's no law that says you have to agree with me, nor me with you. In the end, the important thing is that we can disagree without being disagreeable.

Wouldn't you agree?

1,182 posted on 02/01/2005 10:29:40 AM PST by betty boop
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To: WildTurkey; betty boop
Thank you for your reply!

Then you will have to retract your "fossil record" statements.

Not at all. Each fossil is a quantization of the continuum of the geological record. That quantization is what the continuum proposed by Darwin (common ancestry, tree of life) relies on for authentication.

Those are not my conjectures, but come directly from statements made by the very best science minds on this forum who stand as their own authority. I'd rather not get into the discussion here, but you can read up on all of it on this other thread.

1,183 posted on 02/01/2005 10:30:15 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
If, after having reviewed my arguments, you disagree with me, then fine. There's no law that says you have to agree with me, nor me with you. In the end, the important thing is that we can disagree without being disagreeable. Wouldn't you agree?

So very true and of great importance to serious investigation.

1,184 posted on 02/01/2005 10:32:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Sorry about leaving the italics turned on in my previous post - I hope it is still somewhat readable. :-)

This is from the "Walking With Dinosaurs" site.

By studying what we know about each animal's particular eyesight, its habits and its habitat, and using modern animals in a similar environment, we can make informed guesses as to the coloration of extinct animals, even dinosaurs.
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The text in the link may not match word for word the 2 or 3 minute program segment but both are very clear that the color schemes used in the program are informed guesses.

There is a "DisoveryKids" program that condenses the much longer "Walking with Dinosaurs" programs into 30 minute, kid friendly presentations. Each "Walking with Dinosaurs" program could make about 5 or 6 or these shorter programs. Each shorter program also has only one or two "behind the scenes" segments explaining the evidence so maybe the one you saw didn't include the segment on color schemes.

1,185 posted on 02/01/2005 10:36:16 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: betty boop

Well, when one says they will root out evil they have made a commitment. That mean NOT trying to defend, but exposing. If you conclusion was that there was NO evil, simply state that. If there is "evil" identify it as such so we can move on.


1,186 posted on 02/01/2005 10:37:00 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Sorry. Wrong post. It was meant to go to BB.


1,187 posted on 02/01/2005 10:40:04 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for sharing the reaction of your nephew to such things!

Indeed, lack of clarity - of full disclosure - concerning any kind of history based science (evolution, archeology, anthropology, Egyptology) can lead to misunderstandings especially among the young who take everything from an adult as a fact.

I believe we would all benefit from full disclosure at all levels - and especially teaching the young, early on, the scientific method and how to investigate on their own.

It would be useful not only in science but also politics, philosophy, etc.

1,188 posted on 02/01/2005 10:41:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: JeffAtlanta; Alamo-Girl

An informative link. It just goes to show that learning is also active, not just a passive pursuit.


1,189 posted on 02/01/2005 10:43:34 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey; RobRoy; Alamo-Girl
...one says they will root out evil they have made a commitment. That means NOT trying to defend, but exposing. If your conclusion was that there was NO evil, simply state that.

Oh for heaven's sake, WildTurkey, I was joking! You seemed to suggest that RobRoy was out of line somehow. So I was just poking a little fun. Lighten up, will ya?

1,190 posted on 02/01/2005 10:43:59 AM PST by betty boop
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To: Alamo-Girl

Did you read #1185?


1,191 posted on 02/01/2005 10:44:30 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Thank you so much for the additional information! I have a fairly good memory, so perhaps that was the case - or perhaps they didn't close caption all of it. I also have a problem with some news programs where the closed captioning doesn't keep up with the spoken words and parts are lost as they cut to commercials.

It could be any of those - but the good news is that they did make an effort to disclose that it was informed guess.

1,192 posted on 02/01/2005 10:45:35 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

Sorry. My bad. I made the mistake in believing the word of a Christian.


1,193 posted on 02/01/2005 10:47:30 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Yes, I did. We've been having a sidebar on this since around post 1176.
1,194 posted on 02/01/2005 10:48:02 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: WildTurkey
Sorry. My bad. I made the mistake in believing the word of a Christian.

I wasn't giving you my word. I was making a joke! (Do you really believe that Christians are all persons of bad faith, and not to be trusted in principle?)

1,195 posted on 02/01/2005 10:52:20 AM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
But why would I want to do that, RWP? Are you attributing "motives" to me? Actually, I'm quite comfortable with that 4.7 billion figure; I'm also quite comfortable with the six-thousand figure. The two figures do not refer to the same thing.

There are two sets of numbers; one based on science, one based on a literal reading of the Bible. The two are irreconcilable, and they do refer to the same thing; the age of the Earth.

It's one of those nasty binary situations conservatives are accused of being fond of.

I'm not attributing motives, because I really don't know why one would want to hedge on a matter like this.

1,196 posted on 02/01/2005 10:54:20 AM PST by Right Wing Professor (Evolve or die!)
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To: betty boop
I wasn't giving you my word. I was making a joke! (Do you really believe that Christians are all persons of bad faith, and not to be trusted in principle?)

Fine. I will just have to interpret everything you say to be a joke. I should have known that. My bad.

1,197 posted on 02/01/2005 10:56:42 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: betty boop
What was mere artistic license enters the stream of supposed reality of a little boy who does not yet have any critical skills. Thus are our youth indoctrinated into the "accepted" and "acceptable" notions of our time....

What changes would you propose for a show like "Walking with Dinosaurs"?

1,198 posted on 02/01/2005 10:57:26 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Right Wing Professor
I'm not attributing motives, because I really don't know why one would want to hedge on a matter like this.

Is that a joke?

1,199 posted on 02/01/2005 10:57:44 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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