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Bush family traced back to invader of Ireland (Bush's Fault Alert:)
Globe and Mail ^ | 27 Jan 2005 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 01/27/2005 5:09:57 PM PST by Cornpone

DUBLIN -- U.S. President George W. Bush is descended from Norman nobleman Richard de la Clare, known as Strongbow, who led the invasion of Ireland in the 12th century, genealogists said yesterday.

Mr. Bush is also descended from the Celtic king of the Irish province of Leinster, Dermot McMurrough, who was denounced as a traitor and whose daughter Aoife married Strongbow. The Bush family is already aware that it is descended from Norman gentry who lived in England in the late Middle Ages. But Irish historian Ann Griffin Bernstorff found the Irish genealogical link by working on the Ross, one of the biggest tapestries in Europe that retraces the birth of New Ross, founded in 1207 by William Marshall, son of Strongbow.

Separated by 30 generations, Mr. Bush is a direct descendant of William Marshall, who was married to Isabelle de Clare.

"It's all very intriguing really," Ms. Griffin Bernstorff told the Irish Times.

"We had heard rumours that this was a possibility, then one of our committee members had a Republican friend in Chicago," she said. "We got the genealogy chart from there and made the link to the de Clare family. It's an ancient Irish family, one of the oldest on the island, stretching back to the mists of time."

Mr. Bush is also descended from Anne Marbury Hutchinson, an English Puritan who arrived in America in 1634 aboard the Griffin and who settled in Boston.

According to the family tree established by Anne and Alexis Bernstorff, Anne Marbury was a direct descendant of Anglo-Norman nobleman John the Strange, and before him Gilbert the Red, Gilbert de Clare, count of Gloucester and Hereford.

Gilbert the Red, who married Joan of England, daughter of King Edward I, was none other than the grandson of William Marshall, whom the Plantagenets called the finest flower of chivalry.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: bush; genealogy; ireland
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To: Happygal

How do you pronounce Aiofe? Eye-oaf?


61 posted on 01/27/2005 7:59:16 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Aoife...is pronounced EEEEEEE-Fah!

Very pretty name actually.


62 posted on 01/27/2005 8:02:04 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Happygal

Thanks!


63 posted on 01/27/2005 8:06:37 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: crz

"So in short, Bush can ID himself with all the royals in England and Europe as can about fifteen bejillion other people."

You're so right. Our family is related to the Bush's and the Bill Gates--for all the good that does us! One liberal cousin was throwing a fit about it and I reminded him at least Pres. Bush,unlike Clinton, knew who his daddy was.


64 posted on 01/27/2005 8:54:48 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Cornpone
The President is probably descended from just about everybody who lived in England or Ireland in the 12th century, and who had descendants at all.
65 posted on 01/27/2005 9:08:44 PM PST by Christopher Lincoln
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To: evilC

ping!


66 posted on 01/27/2005 9:16:41 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I have always heard that Somerled was a son of Haakon.
Some how in the great mix We get stuck with kinship to Longshanks, but I stopped digging around, afraid that Slick Willy will turn up as a cousin. I could not stand to know that! Clan MacDhugaill runs from Dhughaill, a son of Somerled. I try with all My might to maintain the traditional attitude! I am sorry that We had cross words with The Wallace, but times back then were somewhat confused.
It is probably enough to know that We come from Men determined to live free, and determine to seek the same for Ourselves.
Thanks for the tip on the book, I will get the library to dig it up for Me.
How did You end up with a Latin handle?
BUAIDH NO BAS


67 posted on 01/27/2005 9:50:36 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: don-o


I hear ya.
It's beyond tiresome at this point.


68 posted on 01/28/2005 5:37:04 AM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: crz

Yes, but I say its a amazing a lot of people are even here........Don't worry your little bosoms. I'm not here. ....Well, not ALL here, anyways.


69 posted on 01/28/2005 7:41:09 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: Happygal

EEEEEEE-Fah!
Alright, John Dean. Sit down and shaddup.


70 posted on 01/28/2005 7:44:23 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: Safetgiver

This article has so many mistakes in it. Obviously written by someone who knows nothing about genealogy. E.g., "William Marshall, son of Strongbow"--actually, he was Strongbow's son in law. "John the Strange"--actually, the name was "John Le Strange". "Gilbert de Clare, Count of ..."--actually, he was an Earl, not a Count.


71 posted on 01/28/2005 7:56:36 AM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: Safetgiver

Who is John Dean? *confused*


72 posted on 01/28/2005 9:38:56 AM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Happygal

Excuuse me. He was Howard Kerry's foe.


73 posted on 01/28/2005 9:43:43 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: Cornpone

I saw a study that traced them to some common family with Bill Clinton..


75 posted on 01/28/2005 1:03:21 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"I saw a study that traced them to some common family with Bill Clinton."

Probably the same study that connected my family with Mr. Bill. Common ancestor? Lucy:-O

76 posted on 01/28/2005 1:10:21 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

I am starting to think the nuts that think we were spawned by aliens and there is one ruling class is right


77 posted on 01/28/2005 1:21:08 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: festus
then one of our committee members had a Republican friend in Chicago," she said. "We got the genealogy chart from there

This is only slightly more reliable than getting your genealogy charts faxed from Kinkos. I mean now we are being asked to believe in the mythical Chicago republican.

Considering that the person quoted is living in Ireland and that "republican" is spelled with a small "r," I would assume the reference is to the Irish Republican movement rather than to our Republican party.

78 posted on 01/28/2005 1:27:00 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Hanistarot leHaShem 'Eloqeynu, vehaniglot lanu ulevaneynu `ad `olam.)
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To: festus
Oops! My bad! It seems she capitalized it, but you didn't.

How dare you??? ;-)

79 posted on 01/28/2005 1:28:18 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Hanistarot leHaShem 'Eloqeynu, vehaniglot lanu ulevaneynu `ad `olam.)
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To: Cornpone; NYer; narses; thor76; Land of the Irish
They missed the central irony. Strongbow is a descendant of Charlemagne and the Merovingians which according to Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code makes W. and his twin daughters descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalen. Gee, will Ron Howard (Opie/Richie Cunningham) invite them to the film preview??? [irony] Maybe they can all sit next to Babs Streisand. Laugh hard.
80 posted on 01/28/2005 1:30:49 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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