Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gun Owners Upset About Gonzales' Support for Gun Ban
Cybercast News ^ | January 26, 2005

Posted on 01/26/2005 7:57:29 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

(CNSNews.com) - The Senate Judiciary Committee is meeting Wednesday to vote on the nomination of Alberto Gonzales to be the next U.S. attorney general; and with Republicans controlling the committee, Gonzales' nomination is sure to proceed to the full Senate for final (anticipated) approval.

But it won't happen without dissent -- from Democrats and even from some conservative gun owners.

As with the confirmation of Secretary of State-nominee Condoleezza Rice, the full Senate is expected to debate Gonzales' nomination - in full glare of the TV cameras -- before voting some time next week.

The criticism, mostly from Democrats who oppose President Bush's agenda, is expected to focus on the Iraq war and the treatment of prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

Gonzales' liberal critics accuse him of setting the stage for the scandal at Abu Ghraib by arguing that the Geneva Conventions (protections for prisoners of war) did not apply to terrorists captured in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In a January 2002 memo to President Bush, Gonzales said the war on terrorism was "a new kind of war" -- one that "places a high premium" on the "ability to quickly obtain information from captured terrorists and their sponsors in order to avoid further atrocities against American civilians."

Gonzales concluded, "In my judgment, this new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions."

Gonzales' critics have pounced on that memo to suggest that he condones torture.

"I think that a man who gave the legal advice to the president to allow this (Abu Ghraib) to take place is someone that deserves to be talked about on the Senate floor," Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada was quoted as saying on Tuesday.

At his confirmation hearing earlier this month, Gonzales said he "absolutely" does not approve of torture.

In his Jan. 6 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Gonzales said he was deeply troubled by the photographs of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib; and he said he shares President Bush's resolve "that torture and abuse will not be tolerated by this administration."

He also said he would honor the Geneva Conventions "whenever they apply."

Gun ban concerns

Of greater concern to some conservatives, Gonzales has said he supports the reauthorization of the USA PATRIOT Act -- as well as an extension of the now-expired ban on "assault weapons."

In an email alert to its members, Gun Owners of America, a Second Amendment group, warned that Gonzales not only supports President Bush on reauthorizing the federal assault weapons ban - but Gonzales also has indicated that gun control is a "heart-felt position of his own."

GOA notes that at his confirmation hearing, Gonzales "spoke of his brother, who is a Houston SWAT officer, and said, 'I worry about his safety and the types of weapons he will confront on the street.'"

"Hence, he (Gonzales) supports a prohibition on semi-automatics that, in truth, only amounts to a ban on ugly guns," GOA told its members.

"GOA activists are certainly aware of the fact that President Bush has repeatedly trumpeted his support for the Clinton semi-auto ban, which expired last September. But every time Bush has opened his mouth on this issue, GOA activists have led the way in bombarding the White House."

It's time to take President Bush to the "political woodshed" once again, GOA said in the email.

"No, we probably won't change his mind on this issue. But if we barrage his office with phone calls, faxes and e-mails, it is very possible that we will increase his reluctance to push the ban," the email said.

"So please make sure you contact President Bush," the email concludes. "While some might think that an anti-gun Attorney General is limited in the amount of damage he can inflict upon the Second Amendment, we can be sure that his position on critical court cases could affect our gun rights for generations to come."

Gun Owners of America is urging its members to express "outrage" that President Bush "would nominate an Attorney General who supports a federal ban on semi-automatic firearms."

The email message includes a "pre-written letter" that GOA members can send to President Bush, reminding him of their opposition to any gun ban - and reminding him that he was re-elected "in large part, because gun owners opposed the cockeyed positions of your opponent."

Depite the criticism of Gonzales, even Democrats predict that he will become the nation's first Hispanic attorney general.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; gonzales
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-84 next last
To: shield
"The question then is: Does Bush support gun control?"

I bet that the answer is, "Yes"! Bush has always been in favor of the AW ban; his campaign website in 2000 made no bones about it at all. Yet, he signed shall issue CCW legislation as Governor of Texas. I think Bush is in favor of "some gun control" and would not hesitate to sign any and all laws that Congress forwarded to him. After all ,he has nothing to lose by doing so. Bush is also a shrewd politician.

My support for him (and the Repubo Party) in the last election hinged almost totally on the successful sunsetting of the 1994 AW ban. Yet, he did not actually say anything other than that he was in favor of AW bans; the Republican Congress let him off the hook by not bringing the McCarthy bill forward for a vote. In the House it would surely have been defeated. But nothing is a sure thing when dealing with politicians whose job descriptions begin with the statement, "Must be a consummate liar."

61 posted on 01/27/2005 11:56:57 AM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: MontanaCowgirlCop
Someone tries to take my gun...make my day.

I love you.

62 posted on 01/27/2005 12:00:39 PM PST by Lazamataz (Running around in a circle waving my arms and screaming like a little girl)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 45Auto
Yet, he signed shall issue CCW legislation as Governor of Texas.

Instead of getting State legislation re-iterating the US Constitutions stance on the Second Amendment, which would have in turn "given" us Alaska style CCW.

This did not bode well for his understanding of what a Constitution is, nor what it is supposed to do. He has proven since gaining the Oval Office to only having a passing aquaintance with the very document that gives him the pwoer he now has.

No reason to expect hims to change his stripes now either...

63 posted on 01/27/2005 12:24:54 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: ericthecurdog

ahem.... ping.


64 posted on 01/27/2005 12:28:10 PM PST by GreenEggsNHam (Hey... what if the hokey pokey really IS what it's all about?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: looscnnn

Be Ever Vigilant!


65 posted on 01/27/2005 12:39:04 PM PST by blackie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: P8riot; GreenEggsNHam
MOLON LABE

Can I get an AAAAAAAMEN from the congregation...

66 posted on 01/27/2005 12:39:11 PM PST by ericthecurdog (Groove IS in the heart.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

Bump.


67 posted on 01/27/2005 12:58:20 PM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower

Hi - Please remove me from your ping list. Thanks.


68 posted on 01/27/2005 3:32:09 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Joe Brower; Grampa Dave; Happy2BMe; devolve
Called senator, emailed president.

La Raza board member, AF washout, gun-control bed-wetter.

Worried about his SWAT bro? There are two hundred eighty million others, many of whom own copies of the Constitution.

That would be the United States edition.

69 posted on 01/27/2005 3:42:45 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: blackie
The minute you step through the courthouse doors, you leave your rights behind you on the street.

Boy if that doesn't say a lot, I don't know what does.

70 posted on 01/27/2005 4:07:33 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Centurion2000
Roger that! Molon Labe!
71 posted on 01/27/2005 4:15:04 PM PST by blackie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Blue Collar Christian

The same thing was said about Bush and CFR. "Oh, he doesn't want it, but he's confident the courts will defang it." Didn't happen. I say we hold him to his stated positions and oppose him when necessary.


72 posted on 01/27/2005 4:16:13 PM PST by Rastus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Dead Corpse
I really think that there are very, very few elected politicians, both from the RAT and the Repubo parties, that truthfully support the RKBA. The last guy in any level of authority in the political realm that I remember that actually said he is fore square behind the individual right to keep and bear was Ashcroft; and he could take this view because as AG he was not involved in actual lawmaking.

If there was a consensus among a large majority of the electorate that it was O.K. to ban and confiscate guns, then it would have already been put in motion, much like it was in Australia. The Constitution has already been rendered a moot document by the actions of politicians over the last 200 years. The only thing standing in the way of the end of the RKBA is 4 or 5 million rabid RKBA advocates who use their mouths and their money to buy enough of the whores in Congress (and in the many state legislatures) to assure its continuity at least for the near future.

73 posted on 01/27/2005 5:06:53 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: PhilDragoo

I'm not happy at all the Gonzalez supports abortion either.


74 posted on 01/27/2005 5:29:06 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe

Can we vote on his being aborted, since he considers the issue a "right to choose" matter?


75 posted on 01/27/2005 8:09:20 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

Oh, but he's conservative. spit.


76 posted on 01/27/2005 8:21:30 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MissAmericanPie

The definition of "conservative" sure has undergone a metamorphosis, hasn't it?


77 posted on 01/27/2005 8:22:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo

It sure has.


78 posted on 01/27/2005 8:25:54 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Grut

No.


79 posted on 01/27/2005 8:32:33 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( Do laws that restrict you and remove gov't's restrictions make you feel more safe?><BCC>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Mojo
Gonzales also has indicated that gun control is a "heart-felt position of his own."

Thumbs down.

80 posted on 01/27/2005 8:55:35 PM PST by Barnacle (Being the biggest target, the Catholic church attracts a plethora of poor marksmen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-84 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson