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Commuter train derails in Glendale (Update: Crash escalates to criminal probe)
AP ^ | 01/26/05 | AP

Posted on 01/26/2005 6:42:20 AM PST by Pikamax

Commuter train derails in Glendale

Associated Press

GLENDALE, Calif. - A Metrolink commuter train derailed early Wednesday in this Los Angeles suburb, and firefighters were searching through the wreckage.

Television reports showed smoke coming from twisted wreckage at the scene of the crash, where two separate trains could be seen derailed.

The derailment in this Los Angeles suburb was near San Fernando Road and Chevy Chase Boulevard.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; deathpenalty; derailment; glendale; juanmanuelalvarez; losangeles; maneatingsuv; metrolink; murder; rail; socal; southerncalifornia; traincrashes; trainwreck; trainwrecks; transportation
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To: Willie Green

If this guy was illegal, there's going to be a backlash live we've never seen...


301 posted on 01/26/2005 10:33:31 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Wolfstar
The Union Pacific engine in which at least two people died. It was hit head-on by the Metrolink train dragging the remains of the car left on the tracks. Imagine the force necessary to knock a massive freight train engine onto its side and partially into a nearby parking lot.

As I was watching early this morning, one injured man was taken from the upper part of this car. He was moving his arms as the firefighters were carefully removing the stretcher down to the ground. However, shortly thereafter, they covered the man with a white sheet.


302 posted on 01/26/2005 10:34:01 AM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: bd476

Thanks for the name. No longer any KNBC live feed coming up for me -- time to go anyway.


303 posted on 01/26/2005 10:34:07 AM PST by CedarDave (Democrats don't speak -- they rant!)
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To: cake_crumb

In his classic "Spetsnaz" Suvorov writes about the old GRU practice of seeking out individuals who might go to extremes, who might be "useful" in carrying out Grey Terror operations (e.g. sabotage meant to appear as random "accidents" and "criminal acts"). I would imaging Al Qaida have read that book.


304 posted on 01/26/2005 10:35:06 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

That's just what I was thinking.


305 posted on 01/26/2005 10:35:14 AM PST by jbarkley (America's light doesn't flicker, Senator Edwards, some people just close their eyes.)
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To: GOP_1900AD

"imaging" s/b "imagine" ...


306 posted on 01/26/2005 10:35:36 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: CedarDave

Take care, drive safely and keep the faith. Thanks for all of your good updates on this awful situation.


307 posted on 01/26/2005 10:35:36 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: CedarDave

Catch ya later, Dave.. have a good rest of the day.


308 posted on 01/26/2005 10:36:43 AM PST by lainie
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To: Rutles4Ever
If this guy was illegal, there's going to be a backlash live we've never seen...

Sadly, I doubt it. There is nothing an illegal can do in this country to get more than the "fringes" wound up.

309 posted on 01/26/2005 10:37:07 AM PST by countess
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To: bd476

Which are you listening to? KNX is very behind the news.


310 posted on 01/26/2005 10:37:14 AM PST by lainie
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To: Wolfstar
The train sheared a signal tower off.

Some of the walking wounded in the triage area. The call came into police and fire services at around 6:11am local time. The first emergency units were on the scene within minutes, and a full triage center was set up by about 6:40am local.


311 posted on 01/26/2005 10:37:31 AM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: Wolfstar

RE: As one car of the Metrolink train is jackknifing, as bad luck would have it, the southbound train is passing. The last car in that train sideswipes the jackknifing car, which rips open the southbound car and throws it totally off the tracks.

By my reckoning, since the train was on the return to central LA, it would have been in pusher mode, making it all the more susceptible to this.


312 posted on 01/26/2005 10:38:49 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: bd476

Did I hear correctly... the Jeep may have been put on the tracks last night??


313 posted on 01/26/2005 10:39:06 AM PST by califamily4W (God bless this nation today.)
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To: cake_crumb

Glendale Mayor's comment surprised me. He hopes the Federal Government will send money. Oh terrific.


314 posted on 01/26/2005 10:39:14 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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To: bd476
Suspect tried to slash wrists, tried to stab himself in chest and then tried to put car on tracks

Not a particuarly effective Al Queda technique to try to kill yourself before the car is on the tracks, methinks.

315 posted on 01/26/2005 10:39:15 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Wolfstar
An arial view. The yellow UP engine is to the left of the photo. The northbound Metrolink train that hit the car is jackknifed next to the UP engine. The car to the far right is from the southbound Metrolink train.


316 posted on 01/26/2005 10:39:17 AM PST by Wolfstar (Have YOU laughed at a Democrat today?)
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To: Strategerist

Mass muurder isn't exactly an efficient form of suicide, either.

Pretty convenient that his previous attempts all left marks that he could show to police. I guess Juan never heard of pills.


317 posted on 01/26/2005 10:40:42 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (NFC Champions!)
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To: Rutles4Ever; Willie Green

It will be interesting to see if we ever find out if he is an illegal.


318 posted on 01/26/2005 10:41:09 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: kattracks

Per the TV annoucer, it was caused by a suicide attempt, but he jump out of the car at the last minute..


319 posted on 01/26/2005 10:41:28 AM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: califamily4W; Strategerist
I did not hear that, yet. I heard that sometime prior to driving the car onto the tracks, actually they used the term "placed the car on the tracks" the man had tried to kill himself by slashing his wrists and then by stabbing himself in the chest.

After those suicide attempts, THEN he placed his car on the tracks and waited. Then before train struck he got out and away from Jeep and watched the tragedy unfold. Sick.

320 posted on 01/26/2005 10:41:54 AM PST by bd476 (God Bless those in harm's way and bring peace to those who have lost loved ones today.)
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