Pic of the USS San Francisco

[submarinerswife]

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[Hostel]

Being a former sonar tech, it doesn't surprise me that the dome is gone. All it is, is a type of reinforced plastic.

THe ripple effect on the anechoic tiling appears to be where those sections of the boat were compressed, more than likely causing the steel in those areas to buckle. The sealant used to hold those tiles in place could have been weakened as a result.

It will be interesting to see once they get her in the drydock just what the extent of the damage is. Just looking at the photo's I have seen, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find the sonar dome to be either missing, or crumpled in.

Though to be honest, I would very much be surprised to see any pictures of her sonar sphere leak out as that is a sensitive area of the boat.

God I miss submarining. THose were the best years of my life, even though I really hated it too! LOL

And to address the guy a few posts back, that is typical officer/enlisted relations. And Doohickey is right on the money with what he said. I've literally had to pull tools out of an officers hands before he screwed something up.

[Robert A Cook PE]

"Nothing" is exactly what we want O-Division doing because if they tried to "something" they'd be in the way. :)

What?

Ya mean I can't walk 'round with my calibrated metric crescent cresent hammer and my pocketknife/screwdriver no more?

[Josef1235]

Thanks. History lesson taken. GO NAVY!

[Doohickey]

Nah, we like it better when y'all stop all work when it's 90% complete because the procedure was more than a foot away from the site, muster everyone in crew's mess and hold a safety brief.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go check diver's tags!

[PogySailor]

Wow! The entire GRP dome is gone. You can see the sonar sphere just below the water. I wonder if thet was taken after some of the debris was removed.

[DBeers]

It appears as if they are piping air in through two of the Marotta Valves to keep the bow up...

(Been awhile since I could use that term) LOL ;)

[DBeers]

I've always wondered why things are so different in the navy.

Things are very different within the Nav as well -your observations regarding a carrier do not apply to a sub boat -tight crew...

[BykrBayb]

Great photo, and an excellent explanation for us land lovers. Thanks.

[EricT.]

enlisted guys working hard and the officer just standing around "supervising."

This is the Navy way. When I was on the McKee, I would always volunteer for night shift whenever shiftwork was necessary for the sole reason that O-gangers acted as cheese to the bowels of production. Officers tended to drag their feet on EVERYTHING, get in the way when you least needed them, and find every possible way that you might be doing something wrong- especially when they have never seen the job done before. Officers went home at liberty call and night time work was productive and unimpeded by some college boy trying to prove that he was the smartest guy in the room. There were very few officers that I truly respected and genuinely liked. They were usually prior enlisted, and made it to E-7 before going LDO.

they were amazed that an army officer would even talk to them

That was my first impression the first time I met the Colonel in charge of every Marine on Guam. He was a very nice guy that always seemed happy to see me. He even made the Guard Company CO get in the back seat so he could give me a ride on a rainy day.

The guy didn't have a clue about how to relate to other people (though i'm sure he was a good pilot) and seemed to have a rather high opinion of himself.

Everything I ever heard about fighter pilots from my airdale buddies was that they were prima-donnas that had trouble fitting their enlarged craniums under the canopy. C-2 transport pilots enjoyed making them barf on the way to the carrier since the passenger seats on the COD faced the rear of the plane.

[passingthought]

FYI,
Those are the vent valves, the marotta valves are below decks and are part of the HP air supply system

[passingthought]

fyi,
The khaki in the picture is a chief

[DBeers]

Those are the vent valves, the marotta valves are below decks and are part of the HP air supply system

What do you expect from a navet?

[submarinerswife]

Here's another photo I hadn't seen posted yet. It appears to be a continuing scan aft from the pic that is the subject of this thread. In the background of Apra Harbor, you can see (I believe) USS CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, USS HOUSTON and the sub tender USS FRANK CABLE.

I don't know where you got that pic but I have the same one and a few others that Husband asked me not to post. I have one that is (or was) the sonar dome. I won't post them due to Husband asking me not too, but if you have the sonar dome maybe it's best not to put it here until the investigation is complete.

[painter]

Finally, if you scan down the side of the hull on a line even with the visible (#2A & B?) MBT vents it seems to me you can see some wrinkling of the outer hull of the MBT. (For those non-submariners reading this, we're NOT talking about wrinkling of the pressure hull, or 'people tank'.)

I bet the pressure hull is kinked.I own an autobody shop and from my experience when a car hits something that hard on the front left corner the whole front end is going to bent to the right.Or starboard in this case.:(

[Nexus]

Here is another, more revealing pic of the San Francisco (Navy release):

[Nexus]

And another:

[Nexus]

Better res of post 155:

[finnman69]

Jaysus, that is nasty. Amazing it did not sink with all hands.

[Nexus]

Actually, 157 is different than 155, duh.

Anyway, here are links to two high resolution versions of 156 and 157:

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/050127-N-4658L-030.jpg

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/050127-N-4658L-015.jpg

[Nexus]