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State senator passes out pro-polygamy material
Religion News ^ | Jan 25th, 2005

Posted on 01/25/2005 9:49:36 AM PST by missyme

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1 posted on 01/25/2005 9:49:38 AM PST by missyme
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To: missyme

Is this any worse than gay marriages?


2 posted on 01/25/2005 9:52:49 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: missyme; little jeremiah; ArGee

Bump & Ping


3 posted on 01/25/2005 9:53:56 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: missyme

Discussions about plural marriage are always interesting, especially since there's ample support for the practise in the Bible.

We reject plural marriage in the United States, not because it is prohibited in the Bible, but because we have a moral sense that is more all-encompassing.

Nowhere in the Bible is there a demand that a man have only one wife, except in describing what a church leader should have.

It's a quandary.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:41 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: All

The Book:
GOD'S BROTHEL
If someone wrote a book about 18 victims of monogamous wife-beaters, would that then "prove" that all monogamous marriage should be banned?

The new book, "God's Brothel," uses 18 anecdotal bad examples, while ignoring the reality of all the good normal polygamous families, to hysterically suggest that "all" polygamy is represented by those bad examples.

If someone wrote a book about a cruel man who claimed to be a "Christian," even though true Christians stand against his ungodly behavior and even say that he is not a Christian at all, would that then "prove" that that man's claim supposedly defines the meaning of being Christian?
"God's Brothel" falsely purports to identify "Christian Polygamy" among its bad exmaples, while ignoring the reality of True Christian Polygamy as actually-defined at TruthBearer.org. (For even more specific details, also see LoveNotForce.com and History of the Christian Polygamy "Movement.")

While most of the book, "God's Brothel," presents its "examples" from another religious belief system (namely, Mormonism), some Mormon Polygamous wives completely disagree with how the book portrays their religious beliefs as well.

Using the same illogic as in these above examples, the new book, "God's Brothel," perpetrates a grave injustice against normal, caring polygamous families. It absurdly tries to implicate "all" polygamists as abusive and other horribles, all by "reporting" a tiny handful of anecdotal examples. Despite such obvious slander, the fact is that normal polygamists have always opposed abuse and their hearts have always wanted to reach out to those who have been abused.

The book's title offensively insults "all" polygamous women by calling them prostitutes. Polygamy has never been a "brothel" of prostitutes under any circumstances.

The facts therefore prove that "God's Brothel" is not an accurate portrayal of what the masses of normal polygamists believe or do, even though their hearts do go out to all victims. In the end, the book itself "pimps" off the hurting abuse-victims, prostituting their painful stories to make a buck for the author. So it harms everyone as the profiteering author whips up false hysteria.

If you want to join the Anti-Polygamy Debate, surf to Anti-Polygamy.com.


5 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:47 AM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: escapefromboston

As long as the mariage is between two consenting adults, I don't have a problem with it. Worry about your own lives before you start worrying about others...la


6 posted on 01/25/2005 9:56:58 AM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne

Why not 10 consenting adults?


7 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:28 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: missyme

I can't figure out from your post whether you support or reject plural marriage.


8 posted on 01/25/2005 9:58:51 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

ABSOLOUTELY NOT!
I am just reporting on the latest views in Polygamy.


9 posted on 01/25/2005 10:00:25 AM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: missyme

You might want to add a source, then, to your quote in the message above. It looks like you wrote it. I know it comes from a web site, but others may not.


10 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:27 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: escapefromboston

Isn't one spouse enough of a headache?


11 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:36 AM PST by vikk
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To: missyme

I am opposed to polygamy. We should restrict multiple wives to serial monogamy.


12 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:42 AM PST by donmeaker (Burn the UN flag publicly.)
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To: escapefromboston
Is this any worse than gay marriages?

From the article:

"Allen helped enact a child bigamy law in 2003 that made forced marriages of minors a second-degree felony punishable by one to 15 years in prison. Before, the offense carried only 30 days in jail, and was rarely enforced, Allen said. He said the marrying of teenage girls was a common practice among some of Utah's isolated polygamist communities until the state served notice it was cracking down. The book, written by Salt Lake City author Andrea Moore-Emmett, tells the stories of 18 women who claim they suffered rape, incest and violence in polygamous communities."

Yeah, that's worse.

13 posted on 01/25/2005 10:01:59 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: MineralMan

Personally, I couldn't be married to more than one woman, but if someone else chooses to marry 10 different women, let them. As long as this doesn't require that they live off the welfare system, this type of marriage doesn't affect you. I have similar feelings on gay marriage, but then again, I'll keep my mouth shut on that issue since it would probably mean the end to my posting here...la


14 posted on 01/25/2005 10:03:04 AM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Marrying a child and polygamy are two seperate issues though they seem to go together alot of the time.


15 posted on 01/25/2005 10:05:07 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: missyme

Whoaaaa missy.

Guess your sharing and have an unbiased opinion?

good luck populating your next planet.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 10:09:11 AM PST by zek157
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To: TheSuaveOne

"Personally, I couldn't be married to more than one woman, but if someone else chooses to marry 10 different women, let them."

Well, I'm not fundamentally opposed to plural marriage, as long as all participants are adults and wish to be married. It's certainly not for me, but I can't really find any firm reason to oppose it.

In reality, the plural marriages that exist in Utah, Arizona, etc., aren't actually illegal, since only one is recorded as a legal marriage. The rest of the wives are not legally married to the man.

When it gets into young women under the age of consent, then I have a real problem with it. Otherwise, I don't much care.

The reality is that there's lots of it going on already. It's not legal marriage, but there's basically no law against a man living with several women, or vice versa. Only if they apply for a marriage license is it illegal. So, lots of folks are in plural marriages, apparently, and cannot be touched by the law.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 10:09:13 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: missyme

Whenever I have seen an actual polygamist on TV, it seems as though a lot of the polygamous wives were very young when they married, many much younger than 18. It seems to me that it's one thing if two 17-year olds get married (not that I'd advise it), but it's quite another when the wife is 17 and the husband is 50.


18 posted on 01/25/2005 10:09:23 AM PST by RonF
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To: missyme

This was predicted and expected. The argument for polygamy has strong genetic foundation, as opposed to that for homosexuality. This is accepted by many as a strong inborn drive for males. Gee, how will NOW and female power brokers respond to this particular sexual diversity? Oh, well, we'll have to watch Canada, eh?


19 posted on 01/25/2005 10:10:16 AM PST by polymuser
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"It seems to me that it's one thing if two 17-year olds get married (not that I'd advise it), but it's quite another when the wife is 17 and the husband is 50."

How about if she's 18 and he's 50? Is it OK then? In many states, women can marry at 17 (or even 16) with nobody's permission. If it's legal, it's legal, despite what we might think of it.


20 posted on 01/25/2005 10:10:45 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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