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Sen. EVAN BAYH...DEM/Indiana joins Boxer, et al.

Posted on 01/25/2005 9:29:12 AM PST by Grendel9

"I rise to oppose the confirmation of Ms. RIce... too many mistakes she was in part responsible for... dismissed Iraq army now firing on our troops... dismissed Bathists who now oppose us..."

He's now harping on Bush as a leader failing in Iraq...[he] "will not give accoutability, so we in Congress must do it for him."

But then, we know Bayh has personal ambitions, too.


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To: MattinNJ
Bayh would carry Indiana.

Put down that blue highlighter and step away! Indiana for Bayh would represent a tremendous and ahistorical Rep to Dem swing. In order to get nominated, Bayh will have to leftify himself beyond Hoosier recognition. The Republican candidate will hopefully not be without his own appeal.

Way too soon to be handing Red states out to any Dem Ticket.

62 posted on 01/25/2005 2:01:22 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: WildTurkey

Birch Bayh (Evan's dad) was one of the most far-left wackos you would dread to see. Always hard to see how my Indiana kept electing him.

Evan has successfully positioned himself (pretended) as a moderate in the Bill Clinton mold. Most here know he is a true lefty, but he is not likely to be unelected anytime soon ...

Actually, he could be a threat on the '08 ticket as a VP. The MSM would adore him as a 'moderate' from the heartland, etc.


63 posted on 01/25/2005 2:34:25 PM PST by fnord (All that is gold does not glitter; not all those who wander are lost)
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To: fnord

Actually, he could be a threat on the '08 ticket as a VP. The MSM would adore him as a 'moderate' from the heartland, etc.

They said the same about John Edwards not too long ago.


64 posted on 01/25/2005 3:08:04 PM PST by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: DuoDamsel

Ditto.


65 posted on 01/25/2005 4:06:35 PM PST by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: areafiftyone

Yes he is. Isn't it interesting how transparent these things are to us?

As for Barbara Boxer, her career has been filled with job killing issues such as Dolphin free Tuna. In the late eighties I attended hearings of the house sub-committee on fish, wildlife and the Environment during which she grandstanded while some of her constituents saw their boats idled at the docks along the california coastline. The boat owners, however, did not see a cessation in their payments on the boats, or to their crews.


66 posted on 01/25/2005 5:34:31 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Grendel9
Bayh seeks to rebuild the Democratic party by attracting the anti-black vote that put him in office in the first place.

Say hello to the new Bobby Byrd.

There's nothing more to it than that.

67 posted on 01/27/2005 2:51:42 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent planning and zoning either, but they did discover trigonometry)
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To: Polyxene

Yes, the call goes out before the vote. They are
usually given a half hour to report in.


68 posted on 01/27/2005 4:18:41 PM PST by Grendel9
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To: Grendel9

Bayh is a COMPLETE hypocrite on this. i seriously worry he's lost his mind. check out his floor speech in 2002.

USE OF ARMED FORCES AGAINST IRAQ -- (Senate - October 02, 2002)

[Page: S9805] GPO's PDF

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Mr. BAYH . I thank the Chair. Madam President, I am pleased to join with my colleagues today on a bipartisan basis to authorize the President of the United States to use appropriate force to defend the national security interests of our country.

I join in this effort with a sense of regret that events have come to this. No one can contemplate the use of military force with much satisfaction, but I also approach this debate with the firm conviction that the time has come to unite, to take those steps that are necessary to protect our country, including the use of force, because all other avenues have been exhausted and seem unlikely to lead to the result of protecting the American people.

Iraq presents a very significant potential threat to our country. Saddam Hussein possesses chemical, biological, and some day will possess, if events are allowed to run their course, nuclear weapons. If there is one thing we can say with absolute certainty, it is he is developing these weapons for no benign purpose. He does not need them to retain his power within Iraq , but in all likelihood will use these terrible weapons to project that power, to intimidate other states in the region, and potentially one day for use against us as well.

If there is even a 10 or 15-percent chance of smallpox or anthrax or a crude nuclear device could one day be placed in the hands of suicidal terrorists for use against the United States of America, this is a risk we cannot afford to run. We have attempted diplomacy without effect. We have attempted economic sanctions to no effect.

Regrettably, my colleagues and I have concluded the President needs the authorization to use force to protect our country from this sort of eventuality. Of course, we will continue to negotiate with the United Nations. Of course, we will gather our allies. But the time has come to unite, to do what it takes to defend our country.

I am pleased to join with my colleagues, Senators WARNER, MCCAIN, and LIEBERMAN, in giving the President the authority he needs to do exactly that.

I thank the Chair. I yield the floor.


69 posted on 01/27/2005 5:26:41 PM PST by CutMyTaxes (check out www.freedomworks.org)
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To: areafiftyone
Blathering Bayh.... or is it Bloviating Bayh???
70 posted on 01/27/2005 5:29:14 PM PST by pointsal
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To: pointsal; CutMyTaxes; Grendel9; muawiyah; fnord; Plutarch; wrathof59; hoosiermama; hookman; ...
Blathering Bayh.... or is it Bloviating Bayh???

Oh, I think we can come up with a more accurate descriptive term than either of those two...

Thursday, November 5, 1998



The grisly saga of Pixie Grismore
Was her murder 20 years ago covered up by politics?

Editor's note: This story is excerpted from the November issue of Dispatches magazine, the monthly sister publication of WorldNetDaily. Annual subscriptions to Dispatches are $36 and individual copies of the November issue are available for $3 at WorldNetDaily's secure online storefront.

By H.J. Halterman


© 1998 WorldNetDaily.com

Two years ago, on a Windy City evening in the month of August 1996, Indiana's then-Governor Evan Bayh appeared before the delegates gathered in Chicago at the Democratic National Convention to deliver the keynote speech that would finalize the nomination and re-election of William Jefferson Clinton to the presidency of the United States. It was a high point in Bayh's political career, a steppingstone, perhaps, to greater things, and it was surely an event in his life which would have brought special pride to his mother -- had she lived to her son's special evening.

His father, former Sen. Birch Bayh, had survived to share that moment in history with his son, and he must have carried enough parents' real pride to make up for his late wife's absence.

Evan Bayh was elected yesterday to the U.S. Senate. He's been talked about as a possible vice presidential candidate for Al Gore in 2000. And since the kind of scandal that has plagued the White House in recent years has never touched the Bayh family, he might make a logical choice.

But perhaps not if the people of Indiana -- and the rest of the United States -- begin asking questions about Pixie Grismore.

Mary Beth Grismore was strangled and found in a car trunk in Ohio, May 3, 1978. Most of the people who knew Mary Beth while she was still alive called her Pixie.

Born and raised in Iowa, Pixie was talented and beautiful, once a runner-up in the Miss Iowa contest and a gifted musician. She left her home town to find employment, married a co-worker and moved to her husband's Indiana home. She brought life to a pair of sons, tried to fit into the rural setting of her new life, grew older and wiser, and finally divorced her Hoosier husband. She fell in love again, and just after Christmas of 1977, she remarried, to an Iowa farmer who lived just a few miles from her old hometown. For a too-short while, she was happy again.

By February of 1978 she was packing her belongings and memories for the move from her Indiana residence to her new home in Iowa and began to say her farewells to the friends and neighbors she'd known and lived among for a decade. On Feb. 21, 1978, she drove her new husband's Ford Thunderbird from her home near Marshall, Indiana, to the nearby city of Terre Haute for a going-away party with two of her friends -- nothing fancy, just a meal at the local lobster joint, a movie and a few hours dancing at some of Terre Haute's nightspots. The trio returned to Marshall just a little before 1:30 a.m., and that was the last time that anyone will admit that Pixie Grismore was ever seen alive.

Later that day her friends came by to help her finish packing for the move to Iowa but found that she wasn't at the rural farmhouse. Neither was the car, though the clothes that she'd worn the previous night and her purse were. Her worried family notified the local sheriff's department and the search for Pixie began. It ended in Whitehall, Ohio -- near the Columbus, Ohio, airport -- on May 3, 1978, when the Whitehall police opened the trunk of a Ford Thunderbird with no license plates that had been left in the parking lot of a local Holiday Inn near the airport that serves Columbus. For almost two months the car sat there until finally, suspicious police opened the trunk. They found a murdered body with a rope around its neck, but 10 weeks of decay and decomposition had so ruined the remains of the former beauty pageant contestant that investigators could not initially even determine if the remains were male or female. Dental records were consulted, and they proved that the body in the car was that of Pixie Grismore. She was 26 years old.

Investigators were eventually led to question Pixie's supervisor at Indiana's Turkey Run State Park, where she had worked as a lifeguard in the summer of 1977. On June 16, they interviewed him again, in Indianapolis -- and this time they read him his rights. Under questioning he admitted to evasion and falsehood in his first meeting with the FBI agents, and this time he told them a new story.

Patrick Ralston admitted that he began a romantic affair with the pretty lifeguard in July of 1977. His wife had just given birth to their baby on June 2 and then underwent surgery in early July, and she had been recovering while staying with her family in Terre Haute. His home was so empty and he was so alone, and he began to spend more time supervising things around the swimming pool where the cute young lifeguard worked. Ralston explained to the investigators that he and his wife drifted farther apart and by November of 1977 he filed for divorce.

On Jan. 15, 1978, Ralston was seriously injured when a frozen water heater exploded at the park. He spent seven days in a Terre Haute hospital and another week recuperating at home. By mid-February he was feeling better but things had changed: His relations with his wife had improved and Pixie surprised almost everyone who thought they knew her by marrying a farmer from the area in Iowa she had once called her home.

On Feb. 16, Ralston telephoned Pixie and suggested they get together one more time for old times' sake. She agreed and they met at the bar of the Cloverdale, Indiana, Holiday Inn. Pixie rented room 215 on the hotel's south side, and while there she called her new husband in Iowa from the hotel room phone.

Up to that point nothing that Pat Ralston had told the FBI particularly removed him from consideration as a suspect, but then he played his ace: While he and Pixie were in the bar, Ralston told the FBI, she told him that she had done something the day before -- Feb. 15 -- that she had always wanted to do. Pixie told Ralston that P.A. Mack, Indiana Sen. Birch Bayh's chief of staff, had arranged for her to meet with the senator at the bar of an Indianapolis motel and that she partied with the senator and his entourage for a while and that she had then gone to the senator's hotel room with him and that she had "slept with him." Pixie said that she had left Bayh's hotel room early on the morning of the 16th, Ralston told the FBI agents.

So the feds checked it out: A registration card for the night of Feb. 15, 1978, indicated that one B.E. Bayh of 2919 Garfield Street NW, Washington, D.C., had indeed stayed in room 579 of the Indianapolis Airport Holiday Inn while he was representing "USS" -- that is, the United States Senate. The room cost $24.

By dragging the senator into the investigation, Ralston virtually guaranteed the end of FBI consideration of his past relationship with the murdered woman. If Ralston had ever been charged with the crime, he would only have had to point out that Sen. Bayh's brief but intimate relationship with Pixie was at least as strong a motive for murder as Ralston's own affair with the dead victim. Since Pixie had been a county coordinator for Sen. Bayh and had been seen in public with him, any such revelation could have left the senator's political future as dead as Pixie Grismore.

It's been said that the only things that can destroy an Indiana politician are to be found in bed with a live boy, or a dead girl. When Pixie's body was found, Bayh was in a political fight to place officials loyal to him in certain key state positions. Though Bayh's own office seemed secure, consolidation of power was a necessary step if Bayh was to reach on for higher glories -- and he had been considered as a presidential candidate before.

But if a story, any story, about an illicit affair with a married woman who was murdered a week later had awakened the public's attention, Bayh's political future could have ended in a heartbeat. Hoosier humor about his cheatin' heart and other parts would have been bad enough, but at the time of the senator's alleged tryst with Pixie Grismore, Bayh's own wife, Marvella, was dying of cancer. Reports that Sen. Bayh had cheated on his dying wife could have reasonably been expected to have had results similar to those that befell Ohio Rep. Wayne Hays two years earlier. Hays suffered the loss of all the political currency that he had gained for his state in his 28 years as a U.S. representative, and also his politically powerful position as the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, when it was reported that he had placed his mistress, Elizabeth Ray, on the federal payroll as a clerk though she could not take dictation, type, or show up for work.

Since there is no statute of limitation for the crime of murder, the investigation of Pixie's homicide is still officially open. Even though then-Sen. Bayh headed the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and was in charge of the oversight committee that supposedly supervises the CIA, NSA and, oh yeah, the FBI, all their investigation couldn't catch the killer -- or killers. But at least the investigators kept Pat Ralston's romantic connection to the victim, and especially her association with former Sen. Bayh, as a closely held secret -- until now.

The secret's been kept, all these years, and the Bayh political dynasty continues -- Birch's son Evan, who was until recently Indiana's governor, and thereby the boss of any Indiana state police agencies still investigating Pixie Grismore's murder, has even been suggested as a future Democratic presidential contender, just like his Dad once was. And Evan gets to hobnob with President Clinton, who needs some good advice on how to handle embarrassing reports about affairs with former girlfriends. As governor, Bayh the Younger got to appoint men like witness P.A. Mack, his father's old fixer-upper, to important positions like trustee of Indiana University. And men like Pat Ralston as head of Indiana's Department of Natural Resources in 1989.

Ralston became the Democratic Party chairman of Indiana's Vigo County -- the Bayh family powerbase -- in January 1995. Ralston, as county party chairman, was instrumental in fund-raising efforts on behalf of newly-elected Indiana Gov. Frank O' Bannon, formerly lieutenant governor for Evan Bayh. O' Bannon, with political considerations involving both his old boss and a key fund-raising party chairman, had been reported to be considering the reappointment of Ralston as DNR director, but that was not to be: On Feb. 21, 1997, 19 years after Pixie Grismore's final party with her friends in Terre Haute, Ralston was instead announced as the new governor's choice to be the director of the Indiana State Emergency Management Agency.

H.J. Halterman is a veteran journalist and Dispatches contributing editor.

Order November issue of Dispatches magazine for the complete story.



71 posted on 01/28/2005 1:50:54 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: pointsal

Actually prefer "Bye Bye Bayh"!


72 posted on 01/28/2005 1:54:28 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: All

As a Hoosier, Evan is fairly popular here, as others have noted. However, his 8 years as governor started 16 years of Hypocrat rule in the Governor's office that led our state to ruin. To describe the condition of state government as "chaotic" is to ascribe to it more order than actually exists. Mitch Daniels, W's former budget director, was just sworn in as governor. He has his hands full trying to balance a serious budget deficit. I think some people are starting to see Evan as the source of the rot.

Bayh will carry Indiana in a Senate election, unless the Republicans right the ship, and put forward a serious "can do" candidate (don't think it will be Mitch next time around, but you never know. Mitch would be half way through his second and last term....)

As for Bayh making Indiana a democrat state in the presidential election, yes, he could. BUT, I have as good a chance of being nominated as he does.

Bayh is trying to manufacture attention. Really, he's a junior senator in a dying minority party. His state carries no weight nationally. (Sorry, but true). He has no national constituency.

Really, he's a nobody.


73 posted on 01/28/2005 2:05:14 PM PST by henkster
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To: archy
Sounds like Evan and his buddies did a job for dear old dad, Birch Bayh.

We all know, of course, that Gordon St. Angelo had mob connections including such assorted muscle as the mob has stationed in otherwise mob-free Indianapolis.

Awhile back one of the old-timers there was arrested at the age of 80 moving hard narcotics from one place to the other.

One of the more noteworthy things about the mob and it's disciples is their attraction to Conservative principles of government and Democratic politicians who are always needing "favors".

That probably explains Bayh's voting pattern as good as anything, eh?!

74 posted on 01/28/2005 4:56:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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