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To: forest

This is no doubt a good thing, but it seems that the battles are being fought and won in state legislatures. Over the past 10 years, many states have passed "shall issue" right to carry laws. A person can travel almost anywhere and be able to carry a gun without running afoul of the law. What will most likely happen, I think, is that so many states will become "right to carry" states that it will become necessary to make it nationwide for everybody's convenience and that may require some federal action. Remember, the folks who take the class and pass the background checks are solid citizens, tax payers and voters, and when there enough of them, their influence will be felt.

So, support this federal action, sure, but if your state has reasonable provisions for obtaining a carry permit (usually an 8-12 hour class and a background check - around $200 total for 4 years here in Tennessee), go and get one. If you live in a more repressive state, find a group that's working toward "shall issue" laws and lend your support. When legislators see the numbers of permits issued, they begin to pay attention.


10 posted on 01/24/2005 12:25:25 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy
"Reasonable" provisions for CCW? It costs, even in the good Southern state of Tennessee, $200 for something that should cost NOTHING? Hell, I felt like the good state of Georgia RAPED me for the 44 bucks it cost me for FIVE years (I think it was $18 for a renewal last time I went in), so I can imagine how you, and those in other states with RIDICULOUS fees and hoops to jump through, must feel. Of course, it beats NOT being able to legally carry... but not by much. If I remember right, my dad had to pay around $300 for the "training" and permit in Texas. I wouldn't live in a state where the government ALLOWS me to have a carry permit ONLY if I've received government APPROVED "training" and they've extorted some ridiculously high TAX ($44 is too high, for that matter) from me. I didn't spend 13 years in the Corps training with weapons to have some government-approved goofball have to teach me how to use a firearm properly. It all comes down to scumbag politicians trying to have something, ANYTHING, to hold over our heads, AND as a way to TAX us in another, more creative way. The bastards.

You may be right about the feds thinking, at some point, that they need to create a country-wide system, similar to the way state driving licenses are recognized, when enough states get on board with CCW. However, I would think there are enough NOW, wouldn't you?

12 posted on 01/24/2005 3:07:27 PM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy; DocH

One thing of note regarding this legislation...it provides that the victim(s) and/or his/her family can sue those responsible, including the U.S. Gov't, for leaving the victim (or family member) unarmed when a criminal caused bodily harm. While some states may already have this part in place, others do not. To me this aspect of this potential law is the best part of it.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 11:05:40 AM PST by Pete_JR_Ewing
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To: Emmett McCarthy; DocH

One thing of note regarding this legislation...it provides that the victim(s) and/or his/her family can sue those responsible, including the U.S. Gov't, for leaving the victim (or family member) unarmed when a criminal caused bodily harm. While some states may already have this part in place, others do not. To me this aspect of this potential law is the best part of it. The only thing I would like to see added, is suit protection for the victims from the perp or the perp's family. Just my $0.02. Cheers, J.R.


16 posted on 02/14/2005 11:08:14 AM PST by Pete_JR_Ewing
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