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"The biggest problem with Million Dollar Baby," says Diane Coleman of Not Dead Yet "is that some of the audience will be newly disabled people, their family members and friends, swept along in the critically acclaimed emotion that the kindest response to someone struggling with the life changes brought on by a severe injury is, after all, to kill them."

The left has forced us to bend over backwards and spend billions of dollars to make the disabled "comfortable" in even the most unlikely scenarios -- and now, they want to adopt a Hitlerian solution to deal with them.

1 posted on 01/23/2005 11:47:40 AM PST by wagglebee
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"Warner Brothers has been accused of deliberately concealing the film's ending in its promotions."

Thanks for posting this. I was surprised to learn that there was a depressing twist to this movie that causes it to end on a very dark note. Of course the review I read didn't reveal what that twist was. I think the ads are very misleading. I am opposed to movies without happy endings, and even though I was opposed to this one because it glorifies female boxing I thought maybe it was a good movie and I was misjudging it. Sorry to be right, yet again.


2 posted on 01/23/2005 11:51:44 AM PST by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: wagglebee

Clint Eastwood is on the left? How do you know the politics of either the screenwriter or the short story writer upon who's work the script was based?


6 posted on 01/23/2005 12:01:38 PM PST by Borges
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Crap ...

" "Million Dollar Baby," perpetuates the view that lives of people with disabilities are not worth living. "

That's the social liberal side of Clint. He's pro abortion as well. He's not a Republican but an "Independent" who really fits the LIBERALtarian mold but typically votes Republican.


7 posted on 01/23/2005 12:02:24 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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You keep giving the public good movies Clint Eastwood ...

Let those who rail make their own.





"I wouldn't have wanted to live without having disturbed someone"

8 posted on 01/23/2005 12:02:32 PM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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Sometimes a movie is simply depicting a story. Such a story may or may not agree with your "world view". But, it's not necessarily trying to make a political point. Why do some people have to see an agenda in every film released or TV show produced? The liberal left often are guilty of this, and now I see some on the right are, too.

If every filmmaker, director, or screenwriter had to get everyone's permission to depict a story nothing would every get made -- or every film would be an episode of Leave It To Beaver. I'll take the Sopranos any day.


13 posted on 01/23/2005 12:07:42 PM PST by Bruceski
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and now, they want to adopt a Hitlerian solution to deal with them.

Some think that was the point ... first make a group of people a "burden on society," and then drop the other shoe: "Don't you wish we could be rid of *them* ...."

14 posted on 01/23/2005 12:09:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (Wielder of the Dread Words of Power, "Bless your heart, honey!")
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I will wait till I see the movie and reserve judgment. On a personal level, the taking of one's own adult lifeis is an act of free will. To me this is not a left or right wing political issue, it's simply cultural and religious and should be left out of the legislative realm.
20 posted on 01/23/2005 12:21:26 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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Your post makes no sense. The groups mentionned in theis article supporting the ADA are against euthanasia and the movie while Clint Eastwood was against ADA.


27 posted on 01/23/2005 12:41:22 PM PST by PFC
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It's odd that the radio commercials don't hint at this at all. You think it's all about a girl who wants to be a boxer.


33 posted on 01/23/2005 12:58:19 PM PST by cyborg
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The fact that Eastwood fought against adding a handicap ramp to his hotel in 77 is irrelevant. That was before the ADA, so he was not obligated under law and may well have been fighting the ramp on purely business or aesthetic grounds.

That said, I'm surprised Eastwood would consent to produce a movie like this. And he can't disconnect himself from the message any more than a producer could who did a movie about Hitler trying to exterminate the Jews if it paints Hitler in a kindly light.


35 posted on 01/23/2005 1:03:43 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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First off, let me say that People who deliberately ruin the ending of a movie for others are the worst type of inconsiderate jerk-off. I don't care the reason; leave a movies surprises for others to see.

Anyway, I doubt a serious, thoughtful examination of one of the most complex political'personal issues of our time (whether we have a right to choose our own deaths or not) will not change my overall opinion of the film, and I will see it as soon as it makes it to theaters in my local area. I trust Clint as the solid, no-BS storyteller that he is, and have loved his movies in the past, from Dirty Harry and The Outlaw Josey Whales to Unforgiven, Heartbreak Ridge, A Perfect World, and Mystic River. He has earned by benefit of the doubt. The major Oscar consideration expected for the film on Tuesday morning also whets my curiosity in the film.


38 posted on 01/23/2005 1:52:40 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: wagglebee

What's the rating for this movie?


40 posted on 01/23/2005 4:33:25 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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and now, they want to adopt a Hitlerian solution to deal with them.

Oddly enough, this at a time when we are closer than ever before to solving the problem of spinal cord injuries. There has been much positive work done in this area and I read in some (admittedly very popularized) report that either regeneration or bridging of certain spinal cord injuries will be possible in the not too distant future.

But heck, it's probably cheaper and faster to kill them. Of course, you could say that about people with any disease, I suppose. Why was all that money spent on AIDS when it would really have been cheaper and easier to let them die?

42 posted on 01/23/2005 4:54:35 PM PST by livius
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"Warner Brothers never tells you the truth about a key plot twist that turns this pedestrian boxing movie into an insufferable manipulative right-to-die movie,"

Gee, thats a novel idea! Hype a move in your ads but don't tell the people how it ends......How despicable is that?????

44 posted on 01/23/2005 5:05:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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"The biggest problem with Million Dollar Baby," says Diane Coleman of Not Dead Yet "is that some of the audience will be newly disabled people, their family members and friends, swept along in the critically acclaimed emotion that the kindest response to someone struggling with the life changes brought on by a severe injury is, after all, to kill them."

When my father was very ill with cancer, we took him out to a movie to get him out for a while. It was about horse racing so we thought he would enjoy it. Turned out the related plot was about a person dying from cancer.

But it was not the producer's fault that it made us doubly sad.

50 posted on 01/25/2005 4:17:57 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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It seems that being offended is becoming America's greatest pass time.


53 posted on 01/25/2005 4:27:00 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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