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NFL Conference Championships - Sun. 23 January 2005 - Update-Patriots vs. Eagles in the Super Bowl

Posted on 01/23/2005 8:59:45 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

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Atlanta Falcons/Philadelphia Eagles

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New England Patriots/Pittsburgh Steelers

ATL at PHI, Sat, 3:00 p.m. EST
NE at PIT, Sat, 6:30 p.m. EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: eagles; falcons; freezeball; nepatriots; nfl; notbreakingnews; patriots; sports; steelers; warstillers
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To: evad; mainepatsfan
Bradshaw??

Dumb as a fox. Terry became "football smart". Terry's not a genius, but he's no dummy at all. Terry just resorts to playing the clown because when he's with people he feels that he must put them at ease. He tries to do it with silliness. That's fine. But, he's a perceptive guy.

I think what we all would like to see in a winning QB is a mental calm, an emotionality that allows him to go through his reads, and assimilate information when things get rough. That's different than "IQ" or intelligence. In this way, emotional maturity is very helpful to a QB.

Tom Brady has everything.

2,061 posted on 01/26/2005 1:51:10 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: Libertarian4Bush; Petronski
Not trying to wear this out (really) but I just ran across these letters to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Yes, they're just fans, but I thought I'd pass them along to you. I especially liked the one where the guy writes of, "hiring a math expert to stand on the sideline for coach BillCowher".

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I am interested to know if the Steelers thought about the possibility of hiring a math expert to stand on the sideline for coach BillCowher. He took momentum from his team [by kicking the field goal on the 2]. Even with the field goal, it still required his team to have two touchdowns to win the game or at least one touchdown and a two-point conversion to tie it or a touchdown and two field goals to win. Besides his team was still required to keep the Patriots from scoring.

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"I'd do it again." That's exactly why Cowher needs to go. He won't, though, and that's exactly why the Steelers will never win a Super Bowl with him. Playing not to lose when you're down by 14 late in a playoff game, against a team that you can't even keep off the scoreboard. He's an idiot, pure and simple. There wasn't a single person watching anywhere that even considered for one second that he would kick a field goal there, but he did.

If I were a Steelers player, I would have walked off the field and emptied my locker before Reed even teed it up.

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He needed to go for it on fourth down from the 2 when the score was 31-17. A field goal at that point was simply too conservative and indicated that we felt we were the weaker team.

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And when the coaches chose a field goal over a 2-yard touchdown attempt as time began to dwindle, they said as much to the world that they believed that they could not win. Next time Bill, go for it.

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Yep, next time Bill, go for it!

Only about 170 days 'til training camp. ;-)

2,062 posted on 01/26/2005 4:10:42 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: beyond the sea

my two cents on the "superbowl" is I can't stand either team and I hope I can find something else to do that whole day......my hubby agrees....


2,063 posted on 01/26/2005 4:12:59 AM PST by cherry
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To: beyond the sea

Why should Cowher worry about winning? He's been annointed "Coach for Life" despite the same failures time after time.

Kind of reminds me of Mayor for life Marion Barry.

By the way if Assante Samuel didn't drop three interceptions in the 3rd and 4th quarter this whole issue is a moot point. The Patriots gameplan of making Ben throw worked well.


2,064 posted on 01/26/2005 4:44:28 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: mainepatsfan
That's the one..
Dawg Williams, aka Doug Williams.

One of the greatest displays of passing and running that I have ever witnessed.

2,065 posted on 01/26/2005 5:00:31 AM PST by evad
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To: beyond the sea; mainepatsfan
Bradshaw?? Dumb as a fox. Terry became "football smart". Terry's not a genius, but he's no dummy at all.

Absolutely! I like Bradshaw and the thing I liked most about him when he was playing is that he could throw a tight spiral to a "general area" in a very short time. Some of those bullets that Swannie had to go up and grab were classic catches.

When the Skins weren't doing so well, Pittsburg was my #2 team. I liked everything about them, including the coach. I even liked Philly back during the Vermeil days. After the "Body Bag" game though, that was it, hated them AND their fans ever since.

..like to see in a winning QB is a mental calm..

In Bradshaw's case it could have been because he was half conscious. Some of the stories the players would tell about him are funny, like when he would come back to the huddle after a hit asking what down it was, how many yards to a 1st down, who felt like taking the ball.... I'm sure they were somewhat imbellished :)

Bradshaw was always the first to give credit to his team and not take glory for himself...a real class guy in that respect.

2,066 posted on 01/26/2005 5:22:47 AM PST by evad
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To: Wristpin
The Patriots gameplan of making Ben throw worked well. ---

Yep, not bad.

2,067 posted on 01/26/2005 5:24:50 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: evad
In Bradshaw's case it could have been because he was half conscious. ---

LOL!!!

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Bradshaw was always the first to give credit to his team and not take glory for himself...a real class guy in that respect. -- Yep, I've always liked him.

Little story: Back when I was at Pitt he and I were dating the same girl, 'Mellisa something' from a little area here in Pittsburgh called Morningside. She was Miss PA or Miss Teen USA, I can't remember.

Needless to say, I eventually stepped aside for the good of the team.

:-)

2,068 posted on 01/26/2005 5:35:36 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: evad; mainepatsfan
Absolutely! I like Bradshaw and the thing I liked most about him when he was playing is that he could throw a tight spiral to a "general area" in a very short time

This may have something to do with it:

Later in his senior year in highschool, he set a national record by throwing the javelin 244 feet, 11 3/4 inches, prompting more than 200 colleges to offer him a track scholarship. He also pitched for the baseball team. But Bradshaw had his heart set on football.

His strong arm gave him a chance. In 1966, he accepted a football scholarship to Division II Louisiana Tech after bombing the entrance exam at Louisiana State.

2,069 posted on 01/26/2005 5:38:29 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: LenS

They had to go on the road in 1987 to beat Chicago. Minnesota then upset the 49ers which meant the NFC title game that year was played at RFK. That was the last time a team played a playoff game on the road and their next at home.

You can't blame the Redskins because the Cowboys didn't put it all together in 1991.


2,070 posted on 01/26/2005 6:01:37 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: cardinal4

Ricky Proehl, meet Eugene Wilson and Rodney Harrison.

2,071 posted on 01/26/2005 6:01:49 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Wristpin

He closes on the ball very fast.


2,072 posted on 01/26/2005 6:03:57 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: evad

I still stump people when I ask who holds the single game Super Bowl rushing record? When I tell them they have no idea who Timmy Smith was.


2,073 posted on 01/26/2005 6:05:42 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: GraniteStateConservative

That guy is going to see Adam Vinatieri in his nightmares for years to come.


2,074 posted on 01/26/2005 6:10:51 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan
I still stump people when I ask who holds the single game Super Bowl rushing record? When I tell them they have no idea who Timmy Smith was.

That's cuz he disappeared the next year but you're right, people have no idea who he is/was.

2,075 posted on 01/26/2005 6:41:31 AM PST by evad
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To: evad
May the fleas of a thousand camels nest in Tom Brady's short."

More good sportsmanship by a Philly fan.
2,076 posted on 01/26/2005 7:02:15 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: evad
At the NFL level give me a quarterback with big brain over a big arm.

Bradshaw??

Would he fit the bill??

I suspect good ole boy Terry is a little bit brighter than a lot of people give him credit for.
2,077 posted on 01/26/2005 7:04:42 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: Beckwith

I could have sworn the title of this thread was "Patriots vs Eagles in the Super Bowl?

Perhaps we need another thread called "Football Nostalgia"?


2,078 posted on 01/26/2005 7:07:33 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: Beckwith
>>May the fleas of a thousand camels nest in Tom Brady's short."
More good sportsmanship by a Philly fan.<<

All in good spirit I'm sure.

2,079 posted on 01/26/2005 7:08:01 AM PST by evad
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To: evad

Amazing that he broke that record during that game and yet wasn't the MVP. Williams broke several passing records and took home the award instead.


2,080 posted on 01/26/2005 7:11:13 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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