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Muslims Boycott Holocaust Remembrance (UK)
The Sunday Times ^ | January 23, 2005 | David Leppard

Posted on 01/22/2005 4:45:50 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

BRITISH Muslims are to boycott this week’s commemoration of the liberation of Auschwitz because they claim it is not racially inclusive and does not commemorate the victims of the Palestinian conflict.

Iqbal Sacranie, secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, has written to Charles Clarke, the home secretary, saying the body will not attend the event unless it includes the “holocaust” of the Palestinian intifada.

He said similar events held in other European countries was an “inclusive day” that commemorated deaths in Palestine, Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia, as well as the former Nazi death camps.

“We wrote to the Home Office three or four weeks ago. We said the issue of the Holocaust is not really the concern. But we have now expressed our unwillingness to attend the ceremony because it excludes ongoing genocide and human rights abuses around the world and in the occupied territories of Palestine,” he said.

Home Office officials have told the council, which represents more than 350 Muslim organisations, that they are considering the request. But officials have no plans to broaden the remit of the occasion because they fear it would infuriate the Jewish community.

The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and Tony Blair will attend the ceremony in Westminster Hall this Thursday to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz and other Nazi death camps, in which more than 6m Jews were exterminated.

More than 600 Holocaust survivors living in Britain, together with British soldiers who helped liberate the Bergen-Belsen death camp, will be at the event. Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, and Prince Edward will fly to Poland for a ceremony at Auschwitz.

This weekend the boycott by the leaders of Britain’s 1.2m Muslims was condemned by Khalid Mahmood, the MP for Birmingham Perry Barr. “I’m proud to be a Muslim. But if people are boycotting this then I think it’s a mistake. People who were exterminated in the Holocaust were not just Jews. There were Romany gypsies as well. Anybody who is interested in human rights should support this remembrance.”

The boycott is an embarrassment for Clarke, who as the cabinet minister responsible for “faith communities” is the event’s official host. It has also angered the Jewish community, which sees it as a snub to the memories of Holocaust victims and to survivors.

Blair said: “It is our hope that Holocaust Memorial Day will provide a focus for reflecting on that tragic event, and on our shared and individual responsibility to work for a more just and tolerant world.”


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To: An American In Dairyland

Of course it should not be buried--burying genocide is part of how it keeps happening. We all should educate ourselves about the dangers of fascism and islamic domination so we will be prepared for it when it is again attempted; as it is being attempted today by islamofascists. My point is that we should not blame any of the victims for which part of Hitler's atrocities got the most press.


101 posted on 01/23/2005 11:41:04 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Major_Risktaker

Could you please elaborate on why Mein Herr Adolph had enormous hatred for the Jews.
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Gosh, why does it matter? I know that serial killer Ted Bundy was spurned by a brunette woman, which is why he targeted brunettes on his killing sprees, but it doesn't lessen his evil.


102 posted on 01/23/2005 11:44:17 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: szweig

I am with you.

I am accustomed to anti-jewish sentiment on the left, it disappoints me to find it here on the right. The left despises jews because it has embraced that cult of death, islam. I wish conservatives (and I assume they are sincere, and not trolls) who have posted their insinuations against jews on this thread would wake up and realize that Christians and Jews are naturally allies, who share a common God (the one TRUE God) and that the islamists would slit the throat of a Christian just as he would a jew. It is a common muslim tactic to encourage Christians to turn against jews. But in the end, we are all infidels to them.


103 posted on 01/23/2005 11:51:35 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Clara Lou

What's Bunny pancake mean?

I hope its a term of endearment, I mean no insult to you..just questioning your statements


104 posted on 01/23/2005 12:13:45 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: ariamne
Gosh, why does it matter?

So it doesn't happen again. If you understand the past you can see the future.

105 posted on 01/23/2005 12:19:41 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: Major_Risktaker; ariamne
Could you please elaborate on why Mein Herr Adolph had enormous hatred for the Jews.

Anti-semitism says much about the nature of the evil in a person or group. For believers in the divinity of Jesus, hatred of the Jews is a statement of hatred of God and, as such, has a specific source.

The degree of that hatred and how it manifests itself provides additional clarification of, well, the kind of evil that is at the source of that hatred.

Beyond that, it is one of those things that one must find out for himself.

106 posted on 01/23/2005 12:56:42 PM PST by Dark Skies
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To: ariamne; Dark Skies
Ariamne,

The whiners who are bemoaning the exclusion of other groups for this Remembrance, have succumbed to the Political Correctness nonsense that is destroying this country.

As for the British Muslims boycotting the Remembrance...they shouldn't have been invited in the first place, so a boycott would not be necessary.


Dark Skies:
>>>>>A gift is not given seeking gratitude. Sacrifice is not made for recognition. Love seeks no reward, it is freely given.<<<<< Excellent Point, Dark Skies. Worth repeating.
107 posted on 01/23/2005 12:57:01 PM PST by jan in Colorado (.)
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To: Marguerite
Iqbal Sacranie...

Who invited him, anyway?

Ain't that the truth...talk about a skunk at a garden party. PeeUUUU!

108 posted on 01/23/2005 1:26:05 PM PST by Dark Skies
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To: USF

Ping


109 posted on 01/23/2005 2:13:25 PM PST by jan in Colorado (.)
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To: ariamne; jan in Colorado
But the majority of muslims either do not believe the Holocause occurred or are sympathetic to its ulimate goal; which was to annihilate all Jews

Even so called "mainstream" Islamic sites like Islam Q+A promote the idiotic Islamic "end of days" enchanted forest scenario where they are obliged to kill Jews for their evil cult.

According to a report narrated by Muslim from Abu Hurayrah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Hour [the Day of Judgement] will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. A Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say, ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allaah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’ – except for the gharqad (box thorn), for it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (Reported by Muslim, 2922).

Little wonder why the Koranimals will not attend a memorial to those innocents that they eventually want to see annihilated from the world.

They would be happier finishing off the job that the murdering and raping genocidal manic Muhammed (pork be upon him) started off in the Hijaz.

PS.. thanks for the ping Jan. ;o)

110 posted on 01/23/2005 3:26:42 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: ariamne

United we stand, divided we fall. We must stick together to prevail.

So true for a homogeneous, monocultural people.


111 posted on 01/23/2005 6:02:48 PM PST by TheBrotherhood (How am I doing?)
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To: Clara Lou
Come again?
112 posted on 01/23/2005 7:28:33 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: ariamne; Do not dub me shapka broham
bunny...pancake
This is a shortened form of "I have no idea what you're talking about, so here's a picture of a bunny with a panckae on its head." I didn't understand your posts to me. I was not/am not/never have supported the Muslim position against Jews-- either during WWII or presently. [Please see my post #25.] My original post to exactly one poster had to do with his misleading, imprecise use of English. [Please see my #26 and #36.] Broad, sweeping comments about any group of people are always wrong, by their very nature.
113 posted on 01/24/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Clara Lou
Not when they happen to be true.
114 posted on 01/24/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The boycott is an embarrassment for Clarke

Why not say that it's an embarassement for Muslims? Will thee media ever hold them responsible for anything?

115 posted on 01/24/2005 8:47:12 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: An American In Dairyland

The word "holocaust" or "shoah" specifically pertains to the extermination of the 6 mln Jews under Hitler's "Final Solution" of the Jewish issue. The full name is the Holocaust (or Catastrophe) of the European Jewry. Nobody, least the Jews, deny the tragedy of other people. As to the recognition, we feel eternal gratitude for the people who liberated the death camps or hid and saved us during the war. The Yad-Va-Shem Museum in Jerusalem is the best proof of that. You don't have to sound so bitter about it.


116 posted on 01/24/2005 10:17:24 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: Clara Lou
Please elucidate. I can't recall that Muslims were involved in the Holocaust.

Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, the spiritual and political leader of the Palestinian Arabs at the time, was convicted as a Nazi war criminal at Nuremberg. He advocated bringing Hitler's "final solution" to Palestine.

Many, if not most, Arabs sided with the Nazis. For example, Anwar Sadat flew for the Nazis.

117 posted on 01/24/2005 10:30:46 AM PST by anotherview (Part of the Palestinians' "Zionist enemy" and proud of it.)
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To: Salgak

Actually, the leader of the Palestinians at the time, Yasser Arafat's uncle Haj Amin al-Husseini, spent much of the war in Berlin. He and his people in Palestine wanted to bring the "final solution" home.

So, yes, some Palestinian Arabs were involved on the Nazi's side.


118 posted on 01/24/2005 10:32:07 AM PST by anotherview (Part of the Palestinians' "Zionist enemy" and proud of it.)
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To: Clara Lou

I do apologize--I probably misunderstood you! I get a bit confused sometimes by the threads--after two months can I still claim the "newbie" excuse? Not to mention over 20 years of cloudy liberalism!


119 posted on 01/25/2005 6:44:03 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: TheBrotherhood

Is it so terrible for us to stick together? For we are both of the Judeo/Christian ideology and share a common enemy--those who wish to see us all dead. Christians and Jews; united we stand, divided we fall. This is how God sees us and this is why he gave his only son to be birthed by a Jewish woman, Mary. Scripture is clear on God's wish for Jews to return to Israel and live there without fear. And his love (and at times anger) for the Jewish people is clearly documented. His only begotten son was Jewish, and was called rabbi, as he preached the new faith Christianity by the Sea of Gallilea. Jesus would weep at the hatred for his people by those who profess to love and follow Him.


120 posted on 01/25/2005 9:18:46 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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