He that striketh his bondman, or bondwoman, with a rod, and they die under his hands, shall be guilty of the crime.
But if the party remain alive a day or two, he shall not be subject to the punishment, because it is his money.
Exodus 21:20-21
There's fun stuff like the death penalty for rape victims:
If a man have espoused a damsel that is a virgin, and some one find her in the city, and lie with her,
Thou shalt bring them both out to the gate of that city, and they shall be stoned: the damsel, because she cried not out, being in the city: the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife. And thou shalt take away the evil from the midst of thee.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24
And enforced marriage between rapist and victim:
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, who is not espoused, and taking her, lie with her, and the matter come to judgment:
He that lay with her shall give to the father of the maid fifty sicles of silver, and shall have her to wife, because he hath humbled her: he may not put her away all the days of his life.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
Religious tolerance is apparently not part of the Jewish or Christian faith. Indeed, other religions are to be terrorized:
Thou shalt not adore their gods, nor serve them. Thou shalt not do their works, but shalt destroy them, and break their statues.And you shall serve the Lord your God, that I may bless your bread and your waters, and may take away sickness from the midst of thee.
There shall not be one fruitless nor barren in thy land: I will fill the number of thy days.
I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come: and will turn the backs of all thy enemies before thee:
Exodus 23:24-27
Whether a religion is True or not has no relevance to whether a government may suppress or interfere with it. IMHO, government is totally incapable of saying anything about faith.
Whether Muslims are going to Hell or not is not the issue - the issue is whether they have the right to their faith. And, sadly, many posters do not believe in religious freedom for anyone other than their faith. "Oh, it's so evil, you can feel the evil rising from the pages of their book, we must destroy it." Well, heck, the same sort of passages are found in the Bible.
My point, exactly. I think a great many people are confusing Wahabbi (I hope I spelled that right) Islam with other versions of it. It's like saying that devout Catholics worship God the same way as a devout Baptist, for example. The different denominations worship in different ways (often accusing each other of being less than moral, as well)...what says that Islam isn't the same? Everything I know about it says that it IS pretty much the same thing.
In fact, since Bush went so far as to mention his faith, it's only right that he would at least give some acknowledgment of the faiths of a great many other Americans. Otherwise, it would have been better to say nothing about religion at all. I can't see that happening, since he is a devout Christian, so I think he handled it quite well.
The Constitution says freedom of religion, and that the government may not establish a state religion. I think a great many folks want to do just that, in the name of keeping out peoples of another faith they think is evil. Well, they can certainly think that it is, but that doesn't mean everyone else thinks so, or even that they are right in their beliefs. Frankly, persecuting folks for their religion is just wrong, wrong, wrong! You punish the individuals responsible for what they have PERSONALLY done (ie the suicide bombers of 9-11, and the Taliban that helped OBL and his followers, ect.) not for being a member of the same faith as these turds.
Now what is your argument?
You want to allow Muslims to takeover the US? All immgration from Muslim countries must be stopped until we have a very careful screening process and make sure no REAL Muslims are here. In WW1 & 2 the German, Italian and Japanese communities face well deserved scrutiny from our government and that is how we won the war. The current Muslim community is not helping at all in the War except helping AL-Qaeda succeed in the next attack.
Onc again, you silly Troll, you try to say that all the rules and laws found in Biblical passages from 2 to 4 Thousand years ago are in use today, when any Christian or Jew knows that to be a LIE.
Punishments called for in the HKoran are still in use TODAY! Women are stoned for Adultery, men are not, women are hanged for being raped, not being the rapist, and people are still publicly flogged for the simplest of crimes, oh, and they still BEHEAD people for crimes such as APOSTASY, which means leaving the faith, giving up Islam.