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To: discostu
YOU'RE the one that wound up agreeing with me about the Creeds

Now you're delusional. I knew it might be a problem to compare these with a TOC, even though this is the presentation in various ways from Aquinas to well-beloved catechisms. The four principal Creeds of The Church are, in fact, a dogmatic, definitive, complete statement of the Faith. It was rather you who wound up blaspheming against God, The Holy Spirit, in order to insist that the Creeds were essentially worthless and the product of a doomed effort to succinctly state the principal tenets of the Faith. If God had only been as smart as you, in other words. I was I who repeatedly, over and over again, stated that volumes had been written, lives lived over the centuries, based on a confession of that Faith. And there was and is even more to it all than all of that. And yet none of these would have denied the importance of the Creeds, as you have done.

500 posted on 01/21/2005 11:09:52 PM PST by sevry
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To: sevry

But YOU said the Creeds were like the the tablwe of contents, these are YOUR words:
Consider the four principal Creeds of The Church as your Table of Contents. It's not unknown for catechisms and lengthy treatises to be organized in that way.

All I'd been saying the whole time was that the Creeds weren't the whole thing, and they YOU turned around and said it too. Tables of contenst are not, never have been, and never will be the the complete statement, they're just a table of contents. YOUR metaphor that YOU chose with no help from me agreed with my position entirely.

I never said they were essentially worthless, quite the opposite. You tried to stick me with that position, but it's a lie, I said the Creeds were very good and very useful but not the whole thing. "Very good and very useful" are not terms used to describe something that is essentially worthless.

And we demonstrated with this your entire problem. You make ASSumptions about what people think, and when what they write doesn't match your ASSumptions you ignore what they write and insert what you think they should have said based on your ASSumptions. This is, of course, why it's best never to ass-u-me. Read what I actually wrote, not what you guessed I'd say, you'll find it eye opening.


518 posted on 01/22/2005 7:13:26 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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