[narby]

As such, they rely upon texts that have been handed down from generation to generation and accept the propositions therein as worthy of acceptance.

Handed down, from where?

I lived in Tulsa when Oral Roberts claimed he saw a 600 ft high angel, or some such sight, that told him to go beg for more money to build his new iconic hospital. Do I believe he saw it? Maybe. Do I believe it really happened? Nope.

Who's to say that the Bible isn't just a set of texts handed down by sects with no greater claim to truth than the Raeliens. After all, the Raeliens believed so much they killed themselves to go visit that spaceship behind the comet. It wouldn't surprise me one whit that they could write a "Bible" that after a few generations of handing down would be followed by equal ferver as today's Christians follow the Bible.

Believe it or not, I support Christianity. I think there needs to be more Christians, not less. Which is exactly why I'm fighting this creationism/ID stuff. I firmly think it harms Christians because they get into deep discussions like this one where their faith is challenged head on. And proposing to start this type of discussion in government high schools is just madness.

I also think insisting on litteral interpretations and fighting Evolution "dumbs down" Christian congregations by chasing away people who see the obvious contradictions. I don't know whether or not this might be purposeful, as slower people are more easily led. But for whatever reason, it's obvious it's occuring.

I hear Bill O'Reilly is coming out in favor of ID in schools on his show tonight.

My predictions that the left will provoke this Evolution fight in order to distract from Bush's goals may be coming true right now. It's too bad there are some people around here who don't get it.

I'm sure I've insulted enough people around here tonight. Sorry, but I can't say nice things when I don't think them.

[nmh]

"Believe it or not, I support Christianity. I think there needs to be more Christians, not less. Which is exactly why I'm fighting this creationism/ID stuff."

I'm glad to see you "support Christianity" but believing the Bible which is the heart of it seems to be too much to ask.

I have to scratch my head in awe that you can throw out Genesis and other books at will that state God created all we see and don't see. I'm also not impressed with the human yardstick you apply to Him in creation. The evidence also DOES point to Him as the Creator.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Handed down, from where?

Beginning with Adam, the first living human, created in the image of God. It was given to him to know the Designer much better than those who followed. What he knew, he taught to his children, and he had hundreds of years to do so. Indeed, more time to teach those few simple things than all the years the trumpeted Theory of Evolution has been around.