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Although I addressed it to "All" I really would like IDers to answer the following questions, for the purpose of making your case and clearing up some questions that I have about ID. I'm not looking for flame bait or to have questions answered by questions, just an honest discussion.

1. Exactly what is the Intelligent Designer? ("Who",IMO, denotes a person)

2. What else is the Intelligent Designer directing besides evolution?

3. Does the Intelligent Designer hold the Human Species at a different level than other Species?

4. If the answer to 3 is yes, then at what time in Earth's History did the Intelligent Designer "design/create" the Human Species?

5. What was the precursor for the Human Species? (Another species or not?)

Thank You for your answers, and again I ask for no flames of either side

233 posted on 01/19/2005 1:18:32 PM PST by WASH
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To: WASH
Here are a few links that will hopefully answer your questions:

ID & the evidences

ID FAQ DI style

ID FAQ ARN style

240 posted on 01/19/2005 1:27:44 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory. http://ww7.com/dna/)
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To: WASH

Good questions.

Biblical Creationists attribute personhood to an Intelligent Designer responsible not only for bringing the observed universe into existence but also for sustaining it in all of its aspects and attributes according to this moment and beyond. As such, they rely upon texts that have been handed down from generation to generation and accept the propositions therein as worthy of acceptance.

These texts bear out, to some degree, WHO this Intelligent Designer is - enough so that one may even approach this Designer and boldly ask for help. The "exact" nature of the Designer has yet to be revealed, but all indications are it will happen eventually. The closest one can come to "seeing" the Designer's essence is, of all things, a single Man despised more than any other, bloodied, and nailed to a cross.

It would be impossible, as far as I can tell, for a Biblical Creationist to believe and confess anything different than an Intelligent Designer being responsible for the creation and sustaining of the universe as we know it.

Those who do not accept Biblical propositions are left to their own reason and senses to gather how the universe came into being and operates as it does. One would think, since man is intelligent and has the capacity to arrange and communicate information, that he would also recognize a certain degree of order and communication in the universe as well. So much so, that this order and communication would likewise be the result of an operative intelligence, albeit more powerful.

Alas, many do not even recognize this much.

Well, by now it is apparent that I believe what the Bible says about God, man, and the universe. So far my own observations and readings have not contradicted the same, including the fact that many people reject the Bible altogether. Nothing new under the sun.

Those who bring up Intelligent Design as a purely scientific proposition are rare. They are not off the mark insofar as they acknowledge the obvious. In a public school setting there is little reason to go beyond the obvious. But then, I never could figure out who died and made public schools God.

Those who profess that science and religion are mutually exclusive erect a fasle dichotomy that is detrimental both to learning and to the human spirit. Public schools, with all their talk about "open mindedness," are predisposed toward the exclusion of Intelligent Design as a viable explanation for the universe as we know it. This does not speak well for their usefulness as far as the human race is concerned.


317 posted on 01/19/2005 5:54:40 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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