America Remembers Robert E. Lee

NewsMax ^ | 1/19/05 | Calvin E. Johnson Jr.

[nolu chan]

LINCOLN LIED TO CONGRESS

In his special message of July 4, 1861 to Congress, seeking to justify his illegal actions and to obtain Congressional forgiveness, Lincoln lied repeatedly. He gave false information and he withheld information. His lies and omissions were relevant and material.

[Lincoln] As had been intended, in this contingency, it was also resolved to notify the Governor of South Carolina, that he might expect an attempt would be made to provision the Fort; and that, if the attempt should not be resisted, there would be no effort to throw in men, arms, or ammunition, without further notice, or in case of an attack upon the Fort. This notice was accordingly given; whereupon the Fort was attacked, and bombarded to its fall, without even awaiting the arrival of the provisioning expedition.

Lincoln delivered another pantsload. The reinforcing and provisioning expedition arrived, on schedule, April 11, 1861. The Harriet Lane was sighted and reported as lying off the main entrance to the harbor, 10 or 12 miles out, on the evening of the 11th. Fort Sumter was attacked on the 12th.

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UNION ORDER TO REINFORCE FORT SUMTER

April 4, 1861
To: Lieut. Col. H.L. Scott, Aide de Camp

This will be handed to you by Captain G.V. Fox, an ex-officer of the Navy. He is charged by authority here, with the command of an expedition (under cover of certain ships of war) whose object is, to reinforce Fort Sumter.

To embark with Captain Fox, you will cause a detachment of recruits, say about 200, to be immediately organized at Fort Columbus, with competent number of officers, arms, ammunition, and subsistence, with other necessaries needed for the augmented garrison at Fort Sumter.

Signed: Winfield Scott

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CONFEDERATE DOCUMENTS FROM THE OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE CIVIL WAR

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O.R. Series 1, Vol. 1, Part 1, page 286

WASHINGTON, April 3, 1861.

Honorable ROBERT TOOMBS, & C., Montgomery, Ala.:

Much activity to-day in the War and Navy Departments. It is said the Minnesota, at Boston, has been ordered to the mouth of the Mississippi. Powhatan suddenly put in commission to sail next week. Four companies now here - three artillery, one sappers and miners -ordered to New York. Report says these movements have reference to the San Domingo question. Pawnee will not be ready for sea until Saturday.

Our intermediary says they dare not deceive him, as they know we do not rely upon them but upon HIM.

CRAWFORD.

ROMAN.

FORSYTH.

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O.R. Series 1, Vol. 1, Part 1, page 286

MONTGOMERY, ALA., April 3, 1861 - 10 p. m.

General BEAUREGARD:

Minnesota ordered to sea, supposed to be for mouth of Mississippi; Powhatan to sail next week; Pawnee ordered to sea on Saturday. Three companies artillery (one of sappers and miners) ordered to New York; probably for the South. Be on lookout.

L. P. WALKER.

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O.R. Series 1, Vol. 1, Part 1, page 286

WASHINGTON, April 5, 1861.

Honorable ROBERT TOOMBS, & C., Montgomery, Ala.:

The movement of troops and preparation on board of vessels of war, of which you have already been apprised, are continued with the greatest activity. An important move requiring a formidable military and naval force is certainly on foot. The statement that this armament is intended for St. Domingo may be a mere ruse.

We are, however, most creditably informed that Commodore Stringham, who takes charge of the squadron, sails for St. Domingo.

Having no confidence in the administration, we say, be ever on your guard. Glad to hear that you are ready. The notice promised us will come at the last moment if the fleet be intended for our waters.

CRAWFORD.

ROMAN.

FORSYTH.

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WASHINGTON, April 8, 1861.

General G. T. BEAUREGARD:

Accounts are uncertain, because of the constant vacillation of this Government. We were reassured yesterday that the status of Sumter would not be changed without previous notice to Governor Pickens, but we have no faith in them. The war policy prevails in the Cabinet at this hour.

M. J. CRAWFORD.

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O.R. Series 1, Vol. 1, Part 1, page 304

EXECUTIVE OFFICE, April 11, 1861.

Brigadier-General BEAUREGARD:

DEAR SIR: In corroboration of the information which I am told you have already received, Captain Davenport, of the pilot-boat Palmetto, reports that he saw the Harriet Lane this afternoon, making towards this city with speed, until within about fifteen miles, of the bar, when he distinctly recognized her. He says he has no doubt about her identity, as he knows her well.

I am, dear sir, respectfully yours,

D. F. JAMISON.

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O.R. Series 1, Vol. 1, Part 1, page 305

HEADQUARTERS PROVISIONAL FORCES, Charleston, S. C., April 12, 1861.

Honorable L. P. WALKER,
Secretary of War:

SIR: I have the honor to transmit the inclosed copy of a correspondence with Major Anderson, in consequence of which our fire was opened upon Fort Sumter 4 at 4.30 o'clock this morning, as already communicated to you by telegraph. The pilots reported to me last evening that a steamer, supposed to be the Harriet Lane, had appeared off the harbor. She approached slowly, and was lying off the main entrance, some ten or twelve miles, when the pilot came in.

Respectfully, your obedient servant,

G. T. BEAUREGARD,

Brigadier-General, Commanding.

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[rustbucket]

That interesting letter you posted from the Lee relative about Hunter's actions was published in the New Orlean Daily Picayune (and doubtless other newspapers) during the war. That's the first place I ran into it. Thank you for posting it and reminding me of it.

[Gondring]

"I am directed by the President of the United States to notify you to expect an attempt will be made to supply Fort Sumter with provisions only..."

The documentation right from official sources makes it very clear that Lincoln was a dishonest man. In fact, his approach to the Presidency and the Constitution are sickeningly Clintonian.

It took me a long time to admit to myself these things about Lincoln, considering the great admiration my father taught me for him, and how whitewashed our textbooks were. But it's hard to deny the realities.

[Non-Sequitur]

I'm sure you're QUITE aware that VMI was only one of the properties burned by Hunter's broad destruction.

But it was the one used as an excuse for burning Chambersburg.

Don't start a rebellion if you are not prepared to accept the consequences.

...and the money demanded by Gen. McCausland (reparations) was to be given to those who'd been looted/vandalized by Hunter's troops (not just to enrich the Confederate coffers).

That is one of the differences. The Union destroyed property for miltiary purposes. The confederates destroyed it when their extortion wasn't paid.

[Non-Sequitur]

It took me a long time to admit to myself these things about Lincoln...

Not hard at all. Close your eyes long enough and you're there. Just like the nolu creature.

[nolu chan]

[Gondring] It took me a long time to admit to myself these things about Lincoln...

[Non-Sequitur] Not hard at all. Close your eyes long enough and you're there. Just like the nolu creature.

Non-Seq, you may close your eyes to the facts all you want. They will not go away.

Writing of Lincoln at the Last Cabinet Meeting of April 14, 1865, Secretary of the Navy Gideon Welles observed that

Link page 526

"He thought it providential that this great rebellion was crushed just as Congress had adjourned, and there were none of the disturbing elements of that body to hinder and embarrass us. If we were wise and discreet, we should reanimate the States and get their governments in successful operation, with order prevailing and the Union reestablished, before Congress came together in December. This he thought important. We could do better; accomplish more without than with them."

When he became President, Lincoln waited until the day after the Senate adjourned and then took measures to have the nation involved in a full-blown shooting war before Congress convened again.

When looking at the Last Cabinet Meeting, it would appear that Lincoln wanted to finish things up the way he started -- while Congress was out of session. Bypassing Congress the first time was no accident, rather it was Lincoln's modus operandi.

LINCOLN'S LAST CABINET MEETING

Excerpted from:
Lincoln and Johnson
Their Plan of Reconstruction and the Resumption of National Authority
First Paper
by Gideon Welles
Galaxy Magazine, April 1872, pp. 525-527

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[nolu chan]

[Non-Sequitur] Not hard at all. Close your eyes long enough and you're there. Just like the nolu creature.

Look at what the taxpayers paid for during the administration of the lincoln creature.

For a real eye-opener, read the letter submitted by James Mitchell to Abraham Lincoln. It was a job-winning letter. Mitchell was brought into the administration as Minister of [Black] Emigration and stayed on until released by Andrew Johnson. The letter was turned into a pamphlet and printed by the Government Printing Office at taxpayer expense. Mitchell makes David Duke look like a moderate. This is the administration of the lincoln creature in private.

LINK to Abraham Lincoln Papers at the Library of Congress

James Mitchell to Abraham Lincoln May 18, 1862 (Pamphlet)

REV. JAMES MITCHELL
18 MAY 1862

LETTER ON THE RELATION OF THE WHITE AND AFRICAN RACES IN THE UNITED STATES
SHOWING THE NECESSITY OF THE COLONIZATION OF THE LATTER

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require a separation of the colored or negro race from us

Yet, terrible as is this civil war between men of kindred race for the dominion of the servant, future history will show that it has been moderate and altogether tolerable when contrasted with a struggle between the black and white race, which, within the next one or two hundred years must sweep over this nation,

the removal of the colored race to a proper locality... Surely this exercise of influence is a legitimate prerogative of the Chief Magistrate, the guardian of national peace, who, being convinced of impending danger to the country, has the undoubted right to notify the nation of its approach, and recommend the remedy.

Our danger in the future arises from the fact that we have 4,500,000 persons, who, whilst amongst us, cannot be of us - persons of a different race

The social and civil evils resulting from the presence of the negro race are numerous

the license of the races, which is giving to this continent a nation of bastards.

That political economist must be blind indeed; that statesman must be a shallow thinker, who cannot see a fearful future before this country, if the production of this mixed race is not checked by removal.

possibly the next great civil war will be the conflict of this race for dominion and existence.

this population is in the way of the peace of the country

Thus far we have found that their presence here disturbs our social structure. We come now to examine how far our civil structure is damaged by this population.

But there is one clause of this sacred compact which requires the Federal government to "guarantee to the several States a republican form of government." . . . When rightly construed it must and will require the gradual removal of such anti-republican elements and peoples as cannot be engrafted on the national stock

It is admitted on all hands that our mixed and servile population constitute the root of those issues and quarrels; what shall be done with them is the question of the hour.

this repulsive admixture of blood

the men of the Exeter Hall school, who, far removed from the scene of danger, see not the degradation of this admixture of race.

he does not choose to endanger the blood of his posterity by the proximity of such a population; that here is no command in the Word of God that will oblige him to place this race on the high road to such an amalgamation with his family

they rejected the black because they could not or would not amalgamate on legal or honorable terms.

Nothing but the authority of the Divine law will change his purpose to hedge himself in and erect legal protections against this possible admixture of blood,

Where men are truly moral and religious, the white and black races do not mix, so that the influence of religion will never effect fusion,

hatred of those who would engraft, as they say, negro blood on the population of their country

We must regard the extension of equal social and civil rights to this class of persons as distasteful to the mass of the nations; the majority will never submit to it

we cannot make republican citizens out of our negro population

a possible corruption of blood in future generations

The government of Great Britain is composed of a few thousand titled and privileged persons, located in a small island, who are born to rule and govern. From their isolated position it is not possible for them to come in contact with the numerous, heterogeneous, and inferior tribes and races under their rule. They are thus protected from possible admixture of inferior blood

How can such a people comprehend the necessity or use of removing the man of color?

to protect them against this repulsive admixture of blood

What is to protect us as a people from degenerating as a race, but the resolve to receive no blood from the other races but that which can be honorably and safely engrafted on the stock of the nation.

Let us then, earnestly and respectfully recommend as a remedy for our present troubles and future danger, the perfecting the proposed plans of the administration in regard to those two conflicting races, and the careful and gradual removal of the colored race to some desirable and convenient home.

Some affect to fear that the man of color will not remove to a separate locality. It is not to be expected that a race, which has hardly attained a mental majority, will rise in a day to the stature of the men who found empires, build cities, and lay the ground work of civil institutions like ours; nor should they be expected to do this unaided and alone. They should receive the kind attention, direction, and aid of those who understand such things; nor will the world condemn a gentle pressure in the forward course to overcome the natural inertia of masses long used to the driver's will and rod. Let us do justice in the provision we make for their future comfort, and surety they will do justice to our distracted Republic.

If they should fail to do this, there would then be more propriety in weighing the requirement of some to remove without consultation, but not till then.

We know that there is a growing sentiment in the country which considered the removal of the freed man, without consulting him, "a moral and military necessity" -- as a measure necessary to the purity of public morals and the peace of the country; and this unhappy war of white man with white man, about the condition of the black, will multiply this sentiment.

But we cannot go further now than suggesting, that the mandatory relation held by the rebel master should escheat to the Federal government in a modified sense, so as to enable his proper government and gradual removal to a proper home where he can be independent.

We earnestly pray that a perpetual barrier may be reared between us and that land of the mixed races of this continent - Mexico.

As Abraham and Lot agreed to separate their conflicting retainer and dependents, the one going to the right and the other to the left, so let those two governments agree to divide this continent between the Anglo-American and mixed races

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[nolu chan]

Have no fear. Non-Sequitor will find a way, despite the evidence.

Oh, it's not difficult for Non-Sequitur, the Brigade Minister of Propaganda. He can always say that whatever someone else says is not worth reading, so he does not read it.

Non-Sequitur will then call the person names for having posted what Non-Seq asserts he has not read.

[newagepublius]

Happy belated birthday to Gen. Robert E. Lee. If it wasn't for that damned tyrant Lincoln militarily occupying my hometown of Baltimore, Maryland's sons would have been fighting alongside Gen. Lee.

[Gondring]

>>I'm sure you're QUITE aware that VMI was only one of the properties burned by Hunter's broad destruction.

>But it was the one used as an excuse for burning Chambersburg.

Are you really quite as dense as you project?

Do Yankee schools no longer even teach how to read? At least I was taught that much when I went through.

I quoted for you a portion of the proclamation itself....that mentioned MORE THAN JUST VMI. Do you need it bigger, perhaps?

Again (and I'll make it big so you can see it, and I left VMI in the list this time so you're not confused by an ellipsis):

"...the homes of Andrew Hunter, A.R. Boteler, E.J. Lee, Gov. Letcher, J.T. Anderson, Virginia Military Institute and others..."

That is, VMI was not the sole reason given, at all. It's just the most attention-grabbing one.

[4CJ]

How would U.N. war crimes investigators react if Slobodan Milosevic had made this comment about ethnic Albanians?

That he'd be denounced for following in the footsteps of Sherman [*SPIT*] - a war criminal deserving of death for his atrcities commited against innocents.

[Airborne1986]

"Explain to me how, by seceding, South Carolina expected to reap wonderful benefits of the Louisiana Purchase? That's some fantasy you've built."

Fantasy? Hello, McFly? They were seeking to start a new country using land that had been acquired by the federal government with federal money through the Lousianna Purchase. There is your benefit! Since you brought up South Carolina, in 1860 57% of the population of that State were slaves and I ask you if you really think the majority of the adult population (yes, including black adults) wanted to secede?

[af_vet_1981]

He resigned his commission in the U.S. army and fought to defend his home (Virginia) and family from the yankee invaders. To have done otherwise would have been the real treason.

He was a traitor to the United States of America. Are you going to do likewise ?

[af_vet_1981]

How are Geroge Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, etc..., great Americans when they "engaged in treasonous rebellion" against the British Crown?

We do not owe our allegiance to the British Crown. We (and I exclude you for the time being) are loyal Americans. Which nation do you represent ?

[Godebert]

"He was a traitor to the United States of America. Are you going to do likewise ?"

I see in addition to being anti-gun.....you are an anti-Southern blue zone socialist.

[hershey]

Thank you, W. Exceptionally nice to read and savor.

[hershey]

Lovely to read about your family! Pay that visit your ancestral home this spring and then report back!

[af_vet_1981]

I see in addition to being anti-gun.....you are an anti-Southern blue zone socialist.

I am pro-American. I assume by your response you are on the other side.

[Godebert]

"I am pro-American. I assume by your response you are on the other side."

Being "anti-gun" is hardly what passes for "Pro-American". Only a leftist or a blue-zone socialist would spit on the memory of a great American such as Robert E. Lee.