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To: SheLion

This is un-Constitutional, from what you've wrote too I agree. Plus, I'm not sure if it's your civil rights or what is being violated when the state looks into your internet purchases, credit card purchases and especially what you have had delivered to your house via every method possible. The NY dept. of finance says in the letter they KNOW the 67 cartons were delivered so that means not only did they obtain his name from one of these online companies in court but they know how many reached our home at what dates. That's creepy and I didn't know your privacy can be so invaded like that, this isn't like a murder or some kind of serious crime that was being investigated. Just a hard working guy (7 days a week) who wants to enjoy an unusual brand of cigs and could only find them online which happened to be out of state. You all have great points about taxing steak, candy, etc... Don't doubt stuff like that won't happen. The invasion of our privacy is the worst part of this which is why the news reporters wanted this story badly. Also, I have been doing a lot of reasearch and one question I get the same answer to. THE RETAILER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CHARGING ANY SALES TAX. You don't go after the buyers, it's insane. Currently it's been 3 days now of reporters calling here and coming over and right now as I type, Andy is on the phone with the Los Angeles Times who just called us wanting a phone interview. I told him to come on here when he can after he gets off the phone, to type some things since he's a great writer and I'm not so great at writing...lol. It's nice to see everyone realizing how serious this is and how it's not about smoking, it's about big brother more than anything else. Whoever read the book "1984" must be pretty shooken up right now. There's a part in the book about how you have to get up each morning and you're in front of cameras in your home and are made to do exercise and keep a certain fitness level. One of you mentioned something like that in your post and it reminded me of the book 1984.


44 posted on 01/15/2005 3:31:15 PM PST by HoggerFox
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To: HoggerFox
That is insane.

They must have nailed the company for their customer data base is all I can figure. But it is still the seller's responsibility to collect the taxes. Not the buyer.

I know the FEDS have to really work on and investigate online Porn. They just can't come in here and pick people's name off of the Net. It's time consuming.

So I would venture to say that the company ratted out and gave in. Pity.

But I wouldn't pay those taxes. Let them go after the seller.

45 posted on 01/15/2005 3:43:04 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: HoggerFox
The Declaration of Independence is not the Constitution. It was used to inform the British of our intentions, not as the rule book between government and citizens.

Someone just sent that in email. I thought I would pass it on.

46 posted on 01/15/2005 3:55:59 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: HoggerFox; Madame Dufarge
I just received the following in email.  This guy is really up on this stuff.  Keep this information:

It doesn’t matter what they call it, it is still forced servitude.  If our frigging courts would follow the constitution instead of legislating from the bench we’d be a lot better off all the way around.    

I would just tell her and anyone else asking the question that the constitution forbids forced servitude.  They really don’t want to open this can of worms in a healthy society.  Forced servitude could also mean the draft, jury duty, or any other action that the government dictates from which there is no escape.  

50 posted on 01/15/2005 4:57:28 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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