Republican to Lead Immigration Revolt Against Bush

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Republican member of the House of Representatives vowed on Wednesday to lead a revolt against President Bush (news - web sites)'s immigration reform proposals and predicted that up to 180 party members would support him.

Bush in an interview with the Washington Times published on Wednesday said he plans to force a debate in Congress this year on his proposal that would allow some illegal immigrants to obtain legal work permits in the United States.

Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, who heads the House Immigration Reform Caucus, said he was determined to block the legislation. The caucus, which had 71 members in the last Congress, argues for stronger action to stop illegal immigration and a reduction of legal migration.

"Why is this so important to the president?" Tancredo said. "Is it just the corporate interests who benefit from cheap labor? Do they have such a strong grip on our president so that he is actually willing to put our nation at risk, because open borders do put our nation at risk?

"Is it petulance, because we were able to stop it in the last Congress? Why is it so important to give amnesty to people who have broken the law?" Tancredo said.

"I'm willing to lead a fight against this and I would say there are at least 180 members of our Republican caucus who are willing at least to stop amnesty for illegal immigrants," he told Reuters in a telephone interview.

Bush has repeatedly said he views immigration reform as an important issue for his second term. In the Washington Times interview, he said it was near the top of his agenda.

"Look, whether or not you agree with the solution or not, we have a problem in America when you've got 8 million undocumented workers here," he said.

Bush expressed confidence he could win over opponents, as he did in passing tax reform during his first term. "Initially out of the box, some people said, over my dead body would they pass tax relief ... If I listened to all that, I'd just quit, you know. But that's not the way I think."

But analysts agree that immigration reform could be much more divisive for Republicans since growing numbers of rank-and-file voters are becoming concerned at the continued influx of illegal immigrants across the Mexican border.

"No issue, not one, threatens to do more damage to the Republican coalition than immigration," said David Frum, a former White House speech writer in Bush's first term.

"There's no issue where the beliefs and interests of the party rank-and-file diverge more radically from the beliefs and interests of the party's leaders," he wrote in the National Review last month.

Bush insists he is not offering amnesty to illegal immigrants but Tancredo said that was a "manipulation of language, the kind of thing (former President) Bill Clinton would have done. There is an issue of integrity here and an issue of honesty," he said.

How many blue-collar workers do you know?

Surprisingly, I keep a running inventory. As of 3:15 pm today, there were: One thousand, two hundred and eleven blue collar workers in my "sphere of influence".

Pffffftttt.

I'm in my forties. Most all the "blue collar" workers I know have evolved over the years to managment or self-employment. Some have used their "blue collar" jobs for the college co-pays and have moved on to some other endeavor. All have succeeded, most have failed along the way and overcome, all have tried to better themselves. None of them are in competition with newly arrived immigrants for employment. They have greater pride than that. They take their obligations to themselves, their families, and to their American blessing more seriously than that.

Eastie gang linked to al-Qaeda
By Michele McPhee
Wednesday, January 5, 2005
A burgeoning East Boston-based street gang made up of alleged rapists and
machete-wielding robbers has been linked to the al-Qaeda terrorist network,
prompting Boston police to ``turn up the heat'' on its members, the Herald
has learned.

MS-13, which stands for La Mara Salvatrucha, is an extremely violent
organization with roots in El Salvador, and boasts more than 100 ``hardcore
members'' in East Boston who are suspected of brutal machete attacks, rapes
and home invasions. There are hundreds more MS-13 gangsters in towns along
the North Shore, said Boston police Sgt. Detective Joseph Fiandaca, who has
investigated the gang since it began tagging buildings in Maverick Square in
1995.

In recent months, intelligence officials in Washington have warned national
law enforcement agencies that al-Qaeda terrorists have been spotted with
members of MS-13 in El Salvador, prompting concerns the gang may be
smuggling Islamic fundamentalist terrorists into the country. Law
enforcement officials have long believed that MS-13 controls alien smuggling
routes along Mexico.

The warning is being taken seriously in East Boston, where Raed Hijazi, an
al-Qaeda operative charged with training the suicide bombers in the attack
on the USS Cole, lived and worked, prosecutors have charged.
Also, the commercial jets that hurtled into the World Trade Center towers in
New York City were hijacked from Logan International Airport.

``The terrorist aspect, especially when you think in terms of 9/11 and how
intent these terrorists are, will turn the heat up on our efforts with
MS-13,'' Fiandaca said.
MS-13 members congregate near the Maverick Square train station sporting
white and blue bandannas, their skin inked with spider webs and ``laugh now,
cry later'' clown faces.

``MS-13 is the most dangerous gang in the area,'' Fiandaca said. ``They are
big. They are mobile. Now they have a terrorist connection.''
The theory that Salvadoran criminals manage to smuggle people over the
border was bolstered this month when two Boston men described as MS-13
leaders were spotted on the North Shore days before Christmas - a year after
they were deported by Boston Homeland Security Immigration and Customs
Enforcement investigators for gang-related crimes.
One of the two men, Elmer ``Tiger'' Tejada, 24, who had been deported after
being convicted of a slew of crimes, including attempted murder charges for
hurling a machete at Chelsea cops, was busted in Lynn on New Year's Day.

Tejada is described as ``an original MS-13 member'' from East Boston,
sources said.
A manhunt has been launched for the second fugitive, who is in the country
illegally, Boston police said.
The growing number of MS-13 members, and the degree of violence the gang
engages in, prompted investigators from 14 local and national agencies to
form the North Shore Gang Intelligence task force in 2000, Fiandaca said.

Among the most notorious local crimes attributed to MS-13 was the gang rape
of two deaf girls, one 14, the other 17, in a Somerville park in 2002. Three
MS-13 gang members were charged in the brutal rapes, during which one victim
was knocked from her wheelchair before the assault.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=61903&format=te

Just thought you'd like to read something about these nice Illegals you fight so hard for.

That's one method of exerting control on a population that you want to control. Little brother won't join the gang? You gang rape his 12 year old sister and his 80 year old wheelchair bound grandma. "Wilding" is an acceptable rite of passage for Hispanic gang members. In case you don't know what that is, it's gang rape. Our adversaries in the Gulf region like raping people as punishment too. Just another similarity between 2 barbaric cultures.

These "people" should be euthanized. I'll settle for deportation.

..."This is *NOT* President Reagan's 1986 amnesty; it's far better than that. Far....."

Well as one who was around and close to this issue when the Farm Bureau bought off Congress in 1986 to get their amnesty, I can tell you the Simpson-Mazoli bill was a compromise, with a carrot of a limited amnesty and the stick of employer sanctions. Congress made a promise that it would be a one time amnesty. Then they failed to fund the enforcement part of the bill thus our present situation. The main loophole for illegals was for independent contractors who are not employees, and I see nothing in either current proposal addressing this issue. Fraudulent documents was another problem, which will once again be present. If an American can get a birth certificate for a dead person and start a whole new ID just think what one can do in Mexico or LA.

There was an overnight business of false documents to "verify" that illegals were eligible for the amnesty..fraud was rampant, and will be even worse this time around with new printers, computers(ala Rathergate)etc. How can INS vet 20 million people when they can't vet their own employees? Mexican Consulate cards are available in LA on the street for $25, you pick the name you want to use...Remember we are dealing with people coming from third world countries where corruption and bribery are part of the job description.

Look at the corruption here over a few drivers licenses, the price will go up for documents to get to be a guest worker...In Mexico to prove you have a clean record you go to the Chief of Police of the town nearest you and he writes a letter with a seal saying you are an angel, you pay him the going rate and you are on your way.

Biometrics work when the data input is good, bad data in bad data out...less than 10% of real agricultural workers have classifiable fingerprints..the ridges are worn off..Maybe we should use biometrics for voter registration?

http://www.ibia.org/newslett030711.htm

Sanctions work if funded and enforced, just like traffic tickets and radar..no one around to stop you speeding will be rampant, throw some hefty fines and drivers license suspensions out there and everyone will know about it.

Our present situation comes from Congress, the are responsible for abdicating and selling out their duty and promises, and for lying to the American people about enforcing sanctions.

If you think I will trust them to register and enforce laws again, you are WRONG. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Its a fools game unless enforcement is locked in solid.

As for registering aliens, every alien in the US is required to carry his alien registration with him at all times, if stopped and they don't have it it is a fine offense(up to $100 and up to 30 days in jail lol..). About 50% of illegals are overstays or out of status and do have immigration documents, the other 50 % that enter without inspection don't have anything but the $50 phony green card and id they got the second they hit downtown LA. Aliens were required to report their address every year..that was discontinued in 1981 for "efficiency" INS had hundreds of boxes of alien registration cards that were never filed or looked at other than in boxes.(actually changed because during the Iranian hostage crisis, INS tried to find Iranians in the US and found out they had no F'n idea how many were still here or where they lived so they eliminated the one law that helped them do their job instead of enforcing it) The half of the alien registation cards that were supposed to be turned in when aliens left the country were never compiled/computerized most were tossed in the trash or stashed in boxes,thus we have no idea who is here and who left..how are we going to do the same with 20 million more people?

Register 20 million people who already broke at least one law and many that also have forged documents..yeah that's the ticket...they will go home when their time is up..ROFLMAO...Look how well INS vetted the 135,000 Mariel boat lift criminals and psychos...look at how many criminal aliens we already know about who are on the loose.

I'm for a limited guest worker program, but it has to be a lot better thought out and secure than what I have seen.If the govt can't keep track of one million foreign students and their schools are required to do the work for them, how can the US keep track of 20 million "guest workers" It's a joke, another fraud upon the public....all show no go..

rs

My perspective won't change until I believe that this American President intends to enforce the laws of the land instead of side-stepping them to pander to a foreign country and slave holders.

Sadly, ethics no longer exist in government or the private sector. It's everyone for themselves. This will help explain the lack of an enforceable border. Greed and corruption know no bounds. The slavery of which you speak is unique, in that it is voluntary. Voluntary servitude has become the price of admission.

Can things get worse? Answer: Yes. When these quasi-slaves decide they've had enough. Could all of this have been averted? Answer: Yes. By resisting the tempation to exploit semi-slave labor combined with a reluctance to enforce citizenship status among those offering their labor with a non-pourous boder policy.

The crapology behind the thinking of most guest worker pundits is that one day this underclass they enthusiastically support will rise up to throw off their chains. A very American reaction, by the way. My guess is that they'll feel insulated from the consquences of their poor judgment, while reaping the benefits short-term.

Government and corporations have together morphed into King George III, with the illegal immigrant playing the part of the colonist. What lies ahead won't be any tea party, but rather a complete salad tossing in places like Los Angeles and many other locations in the Southwest.

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