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Apple releases $499 Imac!!!
www.apple.com ^ | 1stFreedom

Posted on 01/11/2005 2:03:19 PM PST by 1stFreedom

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To: Richard Kimball

$499 is a teaser price. It's for the lowest speed processor, pathetic video memory, 40GB HD, and only 256MB of system memory. I'd consider getting one too, to go along with the XP and Linux boxes I've got. But (1) I have no idea what I'd do with it, and (2) By the time I pay tax, shipping, and get appropriate upgrades, this thing will probably cost over $800.


61 posted on 01/11/2005 3:56:08 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


62 posted on 01/11/2005 4:03:30 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Cooter

This new ipod has no display. Useless.


63 posted on 01/11/2005 4:05:16 PM PST by G32
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To: G32

Or did I miss it on the cord...


64 posted on 01/11/2005 4:06:46 PM PST by G32
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To: JerseyHighlander
Apple's stock almost ALWAYS takes a dive the day of a keynote in which new harware is released. The only time in the last couple of years where the stock didn't drop was when the iPod mini was released.

I bet you thought a 5Gig MP3 player for $399 was going ot be a total failure as well.

65 posted on 01/11/2005 4:09:33 PM PST by SengirV
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To: edchambers
I'm up to my kazoo with the 1.1 Ghz AMD running Fedora Core 3, XP2200+ running Windows 2000, 3.2 GHz P4 HT running Windows 2000, P4 1.7 GHz running QNX 6.3, PII-350 running QNX 6.2.1 off FLASH and Diamond Hercules EBX running QNX 6.3, Diamond Prometheus PC104 running QNX 6.2.1. That's just the X86 boxes attached to the KVM. The two Dell laptops aren't on the KVM. That is just the boxes in physical reach. Not to mention the Microchip PICDem2Plus and 2 CAN/LIN3 Demo boards used for CAN development and embedded PIC stuff.

All that stuff is to support my work. All personally purchased except for the PC104 and EBX single board computers. The Mini iMac would be mostly a novelty toy... for the limited number "free" time I have available.

66 posted on 01/11/2005 4:18:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: bahblahbah; All

>>Anyone know if you connect a 2 button mouse to a Mac if you can bind the 2nd button to something?

Yes, it's a setting -- I forgot where it is. This works on any Mac running OSX I believe...


67 posted on 01/11/2005 4:20:35 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: All

I think some of you have the wrong idea...

OS X blows away Windows in terms of luxury... It looks, feels, and acts better bar none. It is a beautiful OS, and it has put the fun back into computers.

Sure, you could go out and buy a $399 pc, but big deal. It's not as nice to use as OSX.

Plus, many users have an extra monitor lying around (old CRT) so why pay $$$ for flat screens, when they are at a premium? Especially if you already have one?

I use a PC, and I program in C# / VB.Net. Windows is the better of the two for application development, bar none. But it stops there. For pure fun, OSX is it.


68 posted on 01/11/2005 4:27:28 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: All

I'd speculate that the target audience for this machine are kids with dated PCs and who own Ipods.

There are tonnnnns of these kids out there. Their folks may have purchased a pc years ago and a monitor is available. Kids owning the Ipod seeking a new computer now have a choice.

And the Apple is sexy, both in style and use. Expect this to be the big market for this machine.

(BTW, there are gazallions of IPODs out there).


69 posted on 01/11/2005 4:37:20 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: newgeezer

how long have (bargain) PCs been coming with USB mouse and keyboard?

Uh never, My newest computer a Dell about two yrs old has USB ports but the mouse is Ps2.Why is everyone so enthused about USB?I haven't had the best of luck with anything connected via USB since my camera.To use the technical term it's kinda "sketchy"


70 posted on 01/11/2005 4:44:24 PM PST by edchambers (l)
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To: July 4th

The iPod Shuffle looks pretty lame to me. Get the real thing. I've had a 40GB iPod since September and I still can't get over how amazing it is. The thought of using a 512MB or 1GB "flash" device with no display depresses the hell out of me. I'm currently shuffling a playlist of 5248 songs right now. It will take me until about Memorial Day to hear it all and by then, I'll have loaded about 5000 more songs. Then I'll probably have to get one of the 80GB or 100GB iPods that will be out by then. Then I'll truly have a lifetime of music at my fingertips and I can hit "Shuffle All" and hope to hear them all before I die.


71 posted on 01/11/2005 4:44:55 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: 1stFreedom
The upcoming PS3, current hacked X-boxes, the next X-box (using the yet to be produced next generation of G chip, to be made by Motorola), any of the barebone minicube PC systems, are faster, have larger hard drives, more RAM, more video mem, more input slots, more software, more games, play Mp3's equally as well, have the similar small dimensions, are UPGRADEABLE, and cost substantially less.

The $499 Mac mini comes with a 40 GB harddrive. That's pathetic.

That's without mentioning the very cool cases available for barebone PC's with or without Windows/Linux, that can be had for as little as $400, with mouse, monitor and keyboard. (Much cooler cases for mini-Pc's and mini-ATX can be bought for $15. For ~$40,000 up front, I can have a Taiwanese firm building clones of mini IMac cases for PC's in 4 days.)

And then there's the 3 ton gorilla, Wal-Mart's barebones Linspire system.

I don't see how between now and the introduction date of PS3 or Xbox2 to market, Apple will see any market share growth, or much increased profit from this product.

The mini Mac should have been introduced 3 years ago.

72 posted on 01/11/2005 5:05:05 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: bahblahbah

You can put a two button mouse with a scroll wheel on almost any Mac available.. and it works! and if you push down your control key on one of those no button jobs.. you see what happens when you push the right click on a two button mouse.. this has been supported for years but almost no one knows about it.


73 posted on 01/11/2005 5:17:57 PM PST by dalight
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To: newgeezer

The vga adapter comes in the box as I understand. You can buy a PS2 to USB adapter for less than $10


74 posted on 01/11/2005 5:23:08 PM PST by dalight
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To: MD_Willington_1976

The video is a DVI/VGA port with an adapter for VGA included


75 posted on 01/11/2005 5:24:19 PM PST by dalight
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To: JerseyHighlander
You are dead-on accurate. For some reason, the cheerleaders on this thread don't seem to get it. The target market for this computer doesn't exist. Sure some Macheads will buy one for "projects" or such, but this will not catch on.

First, the computer illiterates are not dependable. They will pick based on price, familiarity, easy-of-use, and at random (pretty much in that order). The killer for Apple is the familiarity part of the equation. A tremendous number of offices use PC based products, and a computer illiterate will be far more likely to have used a PC at work than a Mac (as Macs tend to be in computer-intensive professions: graphic design, etc.)

Second, single-issue purchasers won't be sold on the system due to its bare-bones setup. For example, my Mom recently had me build her a computer. She was only interested in a system for accounting, spreadsheets, and internet browsing. At her job, she used Excel. So a Mac would have imposed learning costs (no matter how "superior" or "easy" they might be after you learn them) that she didn't want. I specced up a system for her that was good performing in some areas (lots of RAM), but bare-bones in others (stock video card), and she was happy. It performed well for what she wanted, and she didn't care that it couldn't render high-end graphics. If one of these single-issue buyers gets a cheap Mac that doesn't do the one thing they want easily and quickly, it doesn't matter how great it is at other things... they won't like it.

Third, it is obvious that you guys must not be around kids very much. As someone who works with them 8 hours a day, I can tell you with complete surety that no computer literate kid in his right mind would so much as glance at one of these. Kids might want something to hook up to their I-pods, but from the discussions I hear from them at school, they want powerful machines (they compare video cards like past kids compared baseball cards. Probably the most impressed I've ever seen a class was when I told them I had an Nvidia 6800GT in one of my rigs at home [this was right after they were launched]... I thought they were going to knee and worship). Only the least computer saavy kids are going to even glance at this. The ones who want computers want something they can play Half Life 2 on.

I just don't see who is going to buy this machine...

76 posted on 01/11/2005 6:02:43 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Still teaching... or a reasonable facsimile thereof...)
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To: bahblahbah
Anyone know if you connect a 2 button mouse to a Mac if you can bind the 2nd button to something?

Yes. The two button (or more) mouse (or other input device) will most likely auto-detect and work just by plugging it in to the USB port. My 3 button wheel trackball defaults to L button - regular click, R button - contextual menus, wheel - scroll, push wheel - double click.

77 posted on 01/11/2005 6:35:31 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: LexBaird
Depends on the driver software of the mouse manufacturer. My logitech allows you to program the 2nd button to perform other functions. Mine's set to double-click.

OSX has built in recognition of most multi-button input devices... no drivers needed.

78 posted on 01/11/2005 6:38:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: 1stFreedom

For 500 bucks I could build something that absolutely blows that machine off the map. And with a better OS to boot in Linux.


79 posted on 01/11/2005 6:41:12 PM PST by Tinhatter
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To: 1stFreedom

They could give it away for free and I wouldn't get another iMAC. iMAC sucks eggs!!! For so many reasons, and in so many ways. Gaaaaaa!!!!!!!


80 posted on 01/11/2005 6:41:25 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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