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To: Just another Joe
It is not a right. It's a liberty granted by the property owner. What gives you the idea that you can usurp the right of a property owner?

Uh, when he applies for the LICENSE to operate a restuarant he is agreeing to abide by the local ordinances. Why don't you fight the licensing process. You would be on firmer ground.

18 posted on 01/10/2005 1:28:39 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: WildTurkey
when he applies for the LICENSE to operate a restuarant he is agreeing to abide by the local ordinances.

local ordinances have no business requiring any more than full disclosure, e.g., "we allow smoking," "we have cockroaches."

25 posted on 01/10/2005 1:45:08 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: WildTurkey; SheLion

You again? Well, you certainly are persistent. :)

Hey, SheLion, is he on the ping list? LOL


26 posted on 01/10/2005 1:46:00 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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To: WildTurkey
"Uh, when he applies for the LICENSE to operate a restuarant he is agreeing to abide by the local ordinances. "

So you don't even argue that the smoking prohibitionists are fair. It's just that because restaurants have the misfortune of having to obtain licenses in order to operate, the owners lose all property rights.

I suppose since government requires licenses to drive a vehicle, it would be logical for you, if they banned smoking in private vehicles as well?
37 posted on 01/10/2005 2:09:12 PM PST by monday
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To: WildTurkey
Uh, when he applies for the LICENSE to operate a restaurant he is agreeing to abide by the local ordinances.

Uh, the licensing regulations, meant to be "health" I suspect but I could be wrong, are normally there for things that the customer can't see and has no control over.
These things are, also, normally backed by proven science that has no, or very very little, wiggle in it.
The 2nd hand smoke health risk isn't even close to this. It's not only not in the ballpark, it's not in the neighborhood, city, county, state, or country with things such as food poisoning, roaches in the kitchen, etc.

The ONLY thing that these bans are based on is, "I don't like the smell."

Well, get over it. I don't like the smell of the local Arab restaurant either. We better ban Arab food.

And don't give me the old, 'majority of the people', we don't live in a democracy. At least we're not supposed to.
We live in a representative constitutional republic that is supposed to guarantee and defend the rights of the property owners.

49 posted on 01/10/2005 2:28:15 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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