Sanctimonious Smoking Nanny

Denver Post ^ | January 10, 2005 | David Harsanyi

[Judith Anne]

Yes, a nuisance tax on every word, they get sooooo windy trying to "help" us. Maybe 10 cents. That's not too high. And the proceeds could go toward reeducating them to stay out of other people's business (restaurants, bars, racetracks) and on minding their own (losing weight, getting a job).

These nannies on the threads here are liberals. I don't like liberals.

[exnavychick]

Well, I don't know a whole lot about PM, so I'd have to do some sniffing around to see why. Not saying you are wrong, but that I don't know much about it, rather.

[Gabz]

I like it!!!!

[Judith Anne]

I have a meeting this afternoon, so I'm going to take a long, leisurely bubble bath, do my nails, watch FoxNews, take the dog for a walk to practice heeling (he's coming along very well), then head out...

See y'all later. ;-D

[exnavychick]

See ya later...enjoy that bubble bath...it sounds heavenly. :)

[Judith Anne]

Later, FRiend. ;-D

[Durus]

It's nice that you (among others) are trying to keep the debate focused. I stopped participating on these threads because certain people, or their ideological brethren, don't care about property rights. They don't really care about rights of any type. They don't care about the republic, the constitution, or about history. They simply want the power to be able to tell you what to do.

That they call themselves republicans or conservatives is disgusting. I'm a thick skinned type, I don't care that some nameless chuckle-head might be less then polite. But the sheer ignorance and their blind compulsions to push statist directives is very depressing.

Do they honestly think they are fighting for the "Land of the free and the home of the brave" or some Orwellian superstate?

[exnavychick]

Well, I would certainly have to agree that they are definitely questionable. It's funny how liberal so-called conservatives can get when it comes to something they don't personally like or agree with.

I am getting an eye-opening experience, that's certain. :)

Good morning!

[Smokin' Joe]

Virginia increased its tax to 35 cents per pack — low by national standards but much higher than the 2.5 cent per pack tax that had been on the books since 1964. And in May, Alabama increased its tax by 26 cents per pack. These increases will not only help ease states’ financial woes, but, more importantly, serve as a strong incentive to reduce tobacco consumption. Studies show that for every 10 percent increase in the price of cigarettes, youth smoking goes down by seven percent and overall smoking goes down by three to five percent.

So, with Virginia's 1400% increase, there should be (140 X 7%) decrease in youth smoking, and a decrease of between 420% and 980% in adult smoking.

LOL! I guess that will realy clear the air in the Commonwealth...

[Zon]

It's about time. What gives smokers the idea they have the right to cause the rest of us to inhale their stench?

The same right an ugly person has to enter a private business -- the business extended an invitation. You're free to refuse the invitation.

[Zon]

That's got to be real annoying to the tree huggers.

[Gabz]

I understand what you are saying.

In a nutshell, PM is the cause of many of our problems. Because they have the largest proportion of the market share, they have a tendency to dictate to the others, and win........always to the detriment of smokers.

Examples are the MSA, and laws in various states to force the smaller and newer companies to pay into the MSA, even though some weren't even existance at the time the MSA was signed. They refuse to fight smoking bans and are known to support increased tobacco taxes...which they did here in Virginia last year.

[Gabz]

Enjoy yourself!

[Gabz]

They are, as you well state, totally blind when it comes to this issue.

I understand your reason for backing out of these type threads. My main reason for continuing participation is somewhere out there is someone who is really look for both sides of the issue.

[Gabz]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

[CSM]

"The restaurant and bar bans are a done deal. That battle is over. The one smokers need to focus on is the move to claim child abuse when smoking at home around children. But, as they have proved in the past, they will stay in denial until its too late. Denial and smoking must go hand in hand."

Yep and reading certain books will be deemed hate literature and banned from being read around children. Wait (check out the spelling) until reading material is banned, it will happen, the battle is raging in other areas of the world....

I hope you will still be applauding this infringement on property rights when your bible is confiscated and burned!

[CSM]

"And now they are choosing to stop serving them. Its simple economics. Its more profitable if an area wide smoking ban is in effect."

Ah, the "government intervention in the market is good for the economy" theory.

Go away!

[CSM]

"The bottom line is do we cater to the convenience of a few for the convenience of the many ?"

We cater to the individual. That is precisely why the blood was spilt to give us individual liberty and freedom. However much you despise these things, that is what they are.

[Smokin' Joe]

I remember that Hillary Clinton was the first one to ban smoking in the White House

LOL! Maybe she would have liked it better if Bill had smoked his cigars, after all.

[Madame Dufarge]

I haven't seen poor cinnie in a while.

She's probably in "the home."

All the signs were there.