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If Sulzberger carries through on his idea, he will likley be in for a rude awakening. Few can be expected to pay for access to the Times biased news reports.

The fact is that the Times 's Internet service is supported by advertising with little additional cost. Any subscription income would be an attempt to skim off additional revenues. However, as non-paying users drop so will ad revenues, causing a net loss to Sulzberger & Co.

1 posted on 01/08/2005 12:52:11 PM PST by tvn
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I for one will not pay for the Times. As it is I only read the obituaries and the Editorial Page and if I have to I can do without both.
Punch and /or Pinch can just suck a cactus bush for all I care.


2 posted on 01/08/2005 12:54:08 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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Great idea, Pinch. Do everything you can to reduce the number of people who view your site. I'm sure your advertisers will love you for it.


3 posted on 01/08/2005 12:55:43 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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Does this fool want to charge for free public libary use to make money for quality reading material??


4 posted on 01/08/2005 12:55:52 PM PST by handy old one (Never confuse the facts with the issues!!)
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See also:

New York Times Mulls Charging Web Readers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316236/posts


5 posted on 01/08/2005 12:56:15 PM PST by Boundless
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Hell, I won't even fill out their registration form, much less pay for their biased news reporting.


6 posted on 01/08/2005 12:59:38 PM PST by Beckwith (John, you said I was going to be the First Lady. As of now, you're on the couch.)
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Are people familiar with the neat little site called Bugmenot?

I find myself using it frequently.

7 posted on 01/08/2005 1:00:48 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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It won't work. The WSJ provides unique financial services that the NYT does not.


8 posted on 01/08/2005 1:04:46 PM PST by Torie
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Sulzberger is a moron. The insiders here in Gotham all know this. He is pissing away his family's crown jewel, but he is able to control the firm's board, and can't be dislodged.


10 posted on 01/08/2005 1:20:50 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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Let's look at the pros and cons of this:

Pros:
(1) Users should pay - and they should pay more at peak times (whoops, sorry, that's what the toll road crowd wants for our freeways - wrong thread).
(2) Maybe some money will be made. There are always corporations that will pay, even if there are few idoits dumb enough.
(3) Maybe some loses will be avoided
(4) As mentioned elsewhere, the paper-version national edition can be canned. For people who still must somehow get their hands on the NYT words - the electronic subscription will be there only option.
(5) Others, like the LA Times, may follow. Then us freeloaders will have to pay to read their great literary works. (( like heck we will ))

Cons
(1) It will likely totally flop - the WSJ can get away with it only because they have excellent journalists and an outstanding editorial page (although some of that is free).
(2) The NYT will no longer have any real influence outside of its print edition - meaning that it becomes just another left-wing local rag - rather than a left-wing national rag.
(3) The free Internet version allows the NYT to reach many, many, more people in the middle, thus giving the NYT the chance to pull these people left.


The decision...

My prediction is that con #3 wins. The NYT will look at its mission to socialize the country trumping profits, just as CNN and the other left-wing TV networks do - giving Fox and wide open audience.
11 posted on 01/08/2005 1:35:11 PM PST by BobL
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1st JOKE of 2005. 1/08/05. Snore


12 posted on 01/08/2005 1:53:00 PM PST by Waco
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are we training a generation of readers to get quality information for free.

ROFLMAO!!!!!

13 posted on 01/08/2005 1:54:40 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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The National Enquirer is not for free, why should their site be?


15 posted on 01/08/2005 1:56:48 PM PST by big bad easter bunny (Whats more to say?)
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I'm for anything that helps put the NYT out of business.

We should write them and tell them what a great idea it is and that we would be happy to pay for their news!


16 posted on 01/08/2005 2:00:26 PM PST by Owl558 (Please excuse my poor spelling)
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I expect most on-line newspapers will charge for access eventually. A standardized "micropayment" system could keep access affordable for most users.


17 posted on 01/08/2005 2:16:15 PM PST by HAL9000 (Spreading terrorist beheading propaganda videos is an Act of Treason!)
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It's about time the NYTimes.com starts charging money??

After all, with all that great fiction I'd gladly pay twice what I pay now just to have their stories (and I emphasize the word stories) available at my beck and call.

No, make that three times. Yep. I'll gladly pay thrice what I pay now just to have access to their stuff.

I might even pay four or five times as much as I do now, just to make sure I never miss anything....


20 posted on 01/08/2005 2:56:26 PM PST by Edit35
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