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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

HONOLULU (AP) - A nuclear submarine ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said.

There were no reports of damage to the USS San Francisco's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said.

Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor, said the Friday afternoon incident is under investigation and the 360-foot submarine was headed back to its home port in Guam.

Details on the sailors' injuries were not immediately available. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said.

Military and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were en route to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said.

Guam is a U.S. territory about 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.

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On the Net:

U.S. Pacific Fleet: http://www.cpf.navy.mil

AP-ES-01-08-05 0343EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: guam; shipwreck; silentservice; ssn711; submarine; usn; usssanfrancisco
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To: Doohickey

I heard stories of the Chiefs in the Goatlocker donning flash hoods and watching Monte Python and the Holy Grail, repeating every line by heart. They are a great group!!


241 posted on 01/08/2005 6:58:56 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: Doohickey

put me on


242 posted on 01/08/2005 6:59:00 AM PST by chasio649
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To: battlegearboat

"You run aground, you're fired.

Period.

I saw it happen often in Vietnam with LST's."

I am not a Navy man either, but I read about them last night. Indpendent of the issue of the submarine, why would a skipper get fired for grounding an LST (Landing Ship, Tank), much less often? I thought they were designed to be grounded, and beach grounding was one of the purposes for which they were used.

Even if a skipper unitentionally touched bottom with one, if he got off unaided and without damage (which should not be that difficult normally) would that lead to anything? Knowing the friends that I had in the Navy during Vietnam, I would have thought that a "creative" explanation for the incident would have been developed. Seems to me that it would have had to have been particularly egregious with significant damage to the ship.

Or is the Vietnam LST not a landing ship?


243 posted on 01/08/2005 6:59:31 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: submarinerswife

I dare not repeat some of the things I saw in the goat locker. Just...ick.


244 posted on 01/08/2005 7:01:33 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: dread78645
--unless you think you breached the pressure hull

Wouldn't that be obvious, quickly.

an airedale

245 posted on 01/08/2005 7:02:30 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: chasio649

You're in.


246 posted on 01/08/2005 7:02:31 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: ASA Vet

CLEARLY!

[not acting]

However, it tends to be an aspect of Navy culture and camaraderie to some degree. Being an A'' hole' earns points for macho, if I recall accurately at all.

Now the difference between noisey blustery A'holery and authentic A holes . . . probably depends a lot on context and upbringing.


247 posted on 01/08/2005 7:04:00 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Doohickey

At the Chiefs club in Groton one time, my Husband and some friends were talking....I asked them what "tea-bagging" was....I never asked him questions about the lingo in front of others again. Lesson learned.


248 posted on 01/08/2005 7:04:21 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Yep, especially on a boat with only two compartments.


249 posted on 01/08/2005 7:04:46 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: battlegearboat

uhhhhhh excuse my ignorance . . . but

aren't LST's DESIGNED to run aground?

When is it kosher and when is it not kosher?


250 posted on 01/08/2005 7:05:31 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
uhhhhhh excuse my ignorance . . . but aren't LST's DESIGNED to run aground? When is it kosher and when is it not kosher?

When it unintentionally hits a big rock.
251 posted on 01/08/2005 7:08:13 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: PogySailor

"The ship has just finished two extended tours. They were on their way to Australia for some r and r. Then the ship is scheduled for a major refitting. This lack of information sucks.


252 posted on 01/08/2005 7:10:45 AM PST by rsobin
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To: SC Swamp Fox
>> --unless you think you breached the pressure hull
Wouldn't that be obvious, quickly.

You might think so, but there's the battery compartment, sanitaries, and a sonar sphere where damage wouldn't be immediately obvious.

253 posted on 01/08/2005 7:12:38 AM PST by dread78645 (Truth is always the right answer)
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To: raybbr; Larry Lucido; IMRight
Surface ships don't have an "up" option when run aground.

Well, actually, in some cases you can unload a ship a get a little "up" option.....

Not a Navy man, but I have played one at the lake when everyone else was drunk....

254 posted on 01/08/2005 7:13:44 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: rsobin
This lack of information sucks.

Imagine the rumor mill that some freaked out wives are creating right now. It must be scary.
255 posted on 01/08/2005 7:14:27 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: IMRight; Issaquahking

You are right on the mark!

I've been aboard a boat (and on a skimmer) where something unforseen happened. In the case of the boat, we struck a growler with our attack scope coming to PD. Bent the scope into a pretzel, and dented the sail pretty nicely. the ping jockeys never had any idea it was there---it was that small and made no noise that would give itself away.

Board of Inquiry was held and they said that it (not the exact words, of course) one of those things.

Skipper stayed, as did the OOD.

If you get anymore word on that boat can you guys ping me?


256 posted on 01/08/2005 7:17:50 AM PST by fastattacksailor (The US without the UN is like not having your mother-in-law with you on your honeymoon)
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To: Doohickey

add me to the list, please


257 posted on 01/08/2005 7:18:03 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: submarinerswife

That's not true. The primary reason for amphib ships being
aground is not being able to off-load by the tide table.

Happened to us while offloading in Beaufort, South Car.

Our equip broke down, caused backup in offload, tide went
out left LST high and dry.


258 posted on 01/08/2005 7:20:52 AM PST by dwilli
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To: submarinerswife
He got his gold dolphins on a boomer....Does that make him a fag too?

Yeah, he's a fag.

[Lurking airedale, laughing]

259 posted on 01/08/2005 7:21:02 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz
"You boomer fags can play too."

Perch and twirl, baby. :)

617

It's gonna be awhile before we find out one way or the other. This is really a bad time to lose a fast boat in that part of the world.
260 posted on 01/08/2005 7:21:56 AM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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