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To: ExtremeUnction
I see no reason to debate the issue.

I hear you, but yet its debated. Perhaps my wife and I have a unique perspective, as she is molecular biologists, and we are both Evangelicals.

I have no problem with the schools teaching the scientific theory of the continuing evolution of species as science. It is, I think, well established, and to a large degree testable by scientific experiment.

However when talking about the origins of life itself, and the universe through the big bang "theory" we are in the realm of pure speculation or to the modern secular list a matter of faith...and herein lies the reason we are still debating this whole issue; the secularists are seeking to elevate their faith in these things to the status of what can be scientifically verified thus demoting alternative faiths to the status of quaint disproved superstition. Moreover they want to accomplish this through controlling what children are taught rather then debating it with other adults.

Just part of the secularists establishing their own state religion in which the "Creator" (a higher moral authority then themselves) is not allowed.

25 posted on 01/07/2005 5:18:48 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear
Speaking as a "secularist", I have no objection to religion being taught in bible class, so long as it is kept out of science class.

BTW Big Bang makes testable predictions which have been verified.

44 posted on 01/08/2005 12:14:17 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: AndyTheBear
However when talking about the origins of life itself, and the universe through the big bang "theory" we are in the realm of pure speculation or to the modern secular list a matter of faith

The universe and life do exist and therefore have an explanation. It is natural to speculate about them. It is rational to try to explain them by mechanisms that we know exist. That is not faith, it is reason.

Speculation and faith are often similar in their validity, but quite different in the feeling of certainty that they impart.

49 posted on 01/08/2005 6:04:29 AM PST by beavus
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