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To: Ohioan
"The evidence over the past 2,500 years--admittedly a very short sample--is that man is devolving, not evolving--in terms of brain power."

Yes, the article is referring to changes that go back many more thousands of years.

"Compare the tendency to produce the higher levels of genius, today, in any population group, with Sir Francis Galton's example of the population of Attica about 2400 years ago, where 90,000 produced a dozen men who throughout all history since, have remained at or near the top in their respective disciplines. Or contrast even the top 25% of the voting population of America today, with those who were persuaded to ratify the Constitution, by reading the scholarly disertations in the Federalist Papers, to witness the dumbing down of our own population. "

Interesting. But don't those examples still appear to suggest more of a culturally-driven phenomenon?

It seems we'll always see ups and downs in the # and expression of great minds, depending on the circumstances in which men live.

374 posted on 12/30/2004 11:52:25 AM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Trinity_Tx
Interesting. But don't those examples still appear to suggest more of a culturally-driven phenomenon?

I think you are suggesting the cart pulling the horse. Culture is created by brain power--the more complex and mentally stimulating the culture, the more brain power evidenced by those who created it.

Of course, through the generations, there is an ongoing interaction. And the culture will certainly influence how the individual develops. (That is only to recognize that both nature and nurture are factors in human development. However, based upon the studies of twins, nature accounts for from 2/3 to 3/4 of the ultimate result.)

A good practical example, is in the effect of the Welfare State in dumbing down the American population, by subsidizing the breeding habits at the bottom of the social structure, while causing a taxation burden, which makes many middle class couples limit their child bearing. Thus there has been a considerable fall off in average scholastic aptitudes since the middle of the past century, even though much more has been spent on cultural stimulation, etc., via various programs--admittedly not always well thought out.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

388 posted on 12/30/2004 1:16:33 PM PST by Ohioan
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