Posted on 12/28/2004 4:11:38 PM PST by Howlin
Earlier today, responding to these remarks by the UN's Jan Egeland
But U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland suggested that the United States and other Western nations were being "stingy" with relief funds, saying there would be more available if taxes were raised.
"It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really," the Norwegian-born U.N. official told reporters. "Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become."
"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."
I sent this email to Jan Egeland
You seem to be under the impression that the ONLY way that individuals can donate money to charities and disasters is if the government TAKES the money from them in the form of taxes and gives it to YOU.
Leaving aside the fact that the UN is the last place I want MY government to give money (see Oil for Food scandal), we don't need to be taxed into giving. The United States is a generous country and we WILL give a lot of money to this cause; we're just not going to give it to YOU to spend as you see fit.
The people who really need and deserve the money will get it, without you having the opportunity to cut your slice off of it.
Howlin @ FR
Raleigh, NC
P.S. Forget about a UN and/or world tax; it's not going to happen.
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your comments. We take your concerns very seriously.
However, as you can see from below excerpts from the White house and transcripts from subsequent interview with Fox, Mr Egelands comments were misrepresented.
We Hope that this helps to clarify the matter.
White House Spokesman's Reaction to the "stingy" comment
QUESTION: Was the president as upset as Colin Powell was about U.N. humanitarian official saying that some rich nations are being stingy with aid?
DUFFY: Well, I'd encourage you to look at his remarks, his recent remarks. I think he's said as much that he's been misquoted and sort of misinterpreted.
As I said, the United States is the single largest contributor to international aid in the world. We outmatch the contributions of other nations combined, we'll continue to do so.
So I would encourage you to look at his remarks and maybe contact his office, because I think some of those were taken out of context.
Transcript of JE on fox news today at 1:30
Rick (Fox) a u.n. official says that's not going to be enough. we can understand that. a country as rich as the u.s. could afford to give away a little bit more money, you would think. with us now, we have the undersecretary of humanitarian affairs for the united nations, his name is jan eggland. thank you for being with us. what do you think? you just heard trent duffy down there, spokesperson basically for the white house. what do you think of his comments? >>
JE: well, i agree with every word. the united states is a very generous donor to our disaster relief operations in the -- in helping the tsunami victims in southeast asia. there is a very generous outflow now from the united states in addition to the initial $15 million, we've heard of $20 million coming from usaid, the u.s. air force, many number of organizations are helping. we see the same response in europe, within asia and elsewhere. it will be, i think, perhaps the biggest relief operation of its kind ever.
Rick so you are getting a good response. i mean, are you satisfied as of right now from the wealthiest countries of the world? >>
JE: in this emergency phase, yes, i'm very satisfied. i have commented on earlier occasions on the general trend from rich countries in the world to give less of their riches to development assistance, to general assistance to the poorest nations, and here it is my job to be dissatisfied, i always want donors and more donors to give, because i see refugees starving, i see children not getting medical help because we have too little funds, in the u.n., in the red cross, in organizations.
RICK: when people watch at home and hear you say that, and they're not rich countries, but they have a little money to give out of their individual pockets, where should they send it? to red cross and owings like that or could the u.n. use some of that? >>
JE: well, the united nations has excellent operations as we speak in southeast asia, unicef, world food program, world health organization, but it's equally good to give through the red cross, through the nongovernmental organizations of which there are so many excellent ones in the united states that are so close partners to us in the united nations in the field.
Rick: you know, i'm sure there are people sitting behind me here and at home watching saying, please, god, make sure this money gets into the hands of the right people, the people that need it. how do we, please, make sure this doesn't turn into a corruption story? >>
JE: yeah, and i understand people are afraid of that, and there have been too many bad examples in the past, but i've been working in international relief human rights and relief work since i was 25 years old. the work has been never -- has never been more monitored, there's never been more quality control, it's never been more effective. for $1 a day, we can feed a child, for less than a dollar, we can immunize a child. it is perhaps the most effective use of money anywhere in the world given what we get in return.
Rick: bring let you go, talk about immunization. i know the u.n. put out a statement about a half-hour ago and said the disease problem may be worse than the tsunami itself, may kill more people in the long run. what are you hearing about that?
JE: now that's exactly what i and others have been saying since it all started in -- on sunday, that there are two waves of destruction. the first is the wall of water, the tidal wave itself, and it has taken tens of thousands of lives but many more could now die because of infected drinking water. it's all polluted, sanitation systems are down. children drink sewage virtually, and that will lead to -- to disease and death. so the relief effort is now concentrating on giving that kind of assistance. rick: speaking of relief effort, please keep us updated on this. we'll check back in with you. >>
JE: thank you for having me.
Great e-mail. My hope is the W looks to other outfits (including faith based) that are not crooked. We'll see...
Looking forward to it.
You GO girl!
You da man! Way to go! Eagerly waiting for the post......
And here is my reply to his reply:
First of all, I am NOT a sir; you'd know that if you had actually read my email, as I signed it.
And, secondly, I read the EXACT quote in the Washington Times, so I know EXACTLY what he said; the White House may have to be politically correct and dance around you UN posers, but the rest of the people in the United States do NOT.
Who exactly were you referring to when you said "stingy," if not the United States and other nations?
This IS your statement, isn't it?
But U.N. Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Jan Egeland suggested that the United States and other Western nations were being "stingy" with relief funds, saying there would be more available if taxes were raised.
"It is beyond me why are we so stingy, really," the Norwegian-born U.N. official told reporters. "Christmastime should remind many Western countries at least, [of] how rich we have become."
"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."
All your snarky remarks have done is turn the American citizens against YOU and your program. It's none of your or the UN's business how much this country and it's citizens donate to any particular charity. We already give more than any other country to the UN now; where's that money? Don't you budget for disasters? You have absolutely NO business telling us how or what to donate.
We are a sovereign country, in case you have forgotten.
You may call us "stingy," but we call you and the UN "wasteful".........and downright corrupt.
Howlin @ FR
Raleigh, NC
You also da girl! Sorry!
You da...da!
Nice job.
You know, it really felt good!
As I am sure you know, I am usually a lot more tactful than that.........LOL.
Just glancing through the response... Why in the wide wide world of sports should anyone care what JE thinks. This creep needs to resign and let an adult take over.
ok... reading on.
I don't much care for his remarks, but yours were wonderful!
Way to go, FReeperWoman!
Well, I am jealous. I have not yet heard from Mr. E, altho I did suggest in my email that he contact: Mrs. Arafat, who makes $100,000 a MONTH; Saddam's cronies, he is reputed to have $1 BILLION; Kofi and Son, who could tithe off their 'skim;' etc. And that I would like to see an accounting, after this is all over, of country-by-country donations, INCLUDING private relief organizations, by country. Did you send it to ochany@un.org? or his personal email???
Must be the exchange rate difference. (or the fact that the French bought themselves a piece of the securty council)
Way to go!
LOL. Methinks they know that they are not loved here. Indeed, I would not be surprised if they are, inside, less than totally saddened by this new "opportunity to lead". Color me cynical but Rwanda/Sudan etc. shows that the UN is exactly as you have called them. May they rot in H*ll....
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Great job Howlin. Post his email address and I'll send him a polite letter :-)
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