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WA Gov. Race: Gregoire Wins By 130 Votes
KOMO-Tv ^ | 23 December 2004

Posted on 12/23/2004 4:56:01 PM PST by Publius

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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

"The bigger question is why all counties in WA state aren't required by law to certify their official results by the same date."

Exactly. As I remarked on another thread, this is a game of showdown poker and King County is picking through the deck to assemble a winning hand after the other players have shown their hands.


21 posted on 12/23/2004 5:25:36 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Publius

Why were thousands of military ballots thrown out because of a late post mark[ a RAT ''mistake''] when these ballots were allowed in after ''finding'' them a month and a half after the election!? I'd be embarressed to take office this way if I was that RAT woman! This is a terrible scandal for the state of Washington and a travisty of justice!


22 posted on 12/23/2004 5:29:11 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: Publius

Let's not go the route of the idiots on DU. If more people voted for her, that's democracy. Move across the border to a red state if you can't live with it.

Ballots shouldn't be tossed just because some election official screwed up the first time around.


23 posted on 12/23/2004 5:29:30 PM PST by Elvis van Foster
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To: Ben Hecks

I guess we will have to get busy and change the law regardless of who wins.


24 posted on 12/23/2004 5:36:03 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Elvis van Foster
The problem is we do not know if more people voted for her or not. When disputed ballots are submitted to partisan (2 Rats, 1 Pub) election boards to divine "intent," we can have no confidence in the winner. When election clerks are "enhancing" ballots with pen and white out we rightly question the results. When rejected ballots are mysteriously "found" in only the Rat County, this "win" cannot be trusted.

Get it?

25 posted on 12/23/2004 5:41:23 PM PST by SoCar
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To: Publius

One correction, our esteemed Publius: Governor Locke stays until a new Governor is sworn in. The Lt. Governor only serves if the Governor dies or is incapacitated.


26 posted on 12/23/2004 5:47:08 PM PST by SW6906
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To: Ben Hecks
"this is a game of showdown poker and King County is picking through the deck to assemble a winning hand after the other players have shown their hands."

Wow! GREAT analogy.

27 posted on 12/23/2004 5:48:13 PM PST by SW6906
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To: SW6906

But Locke has no intention of hanging around. He's made it clear he'll resign, if necessary. It's almost a certainty that Brad Owen would be acting governor.


28 posted on 12/23/2004 5:51:59 PM PST by Publius
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To: Publius
Count and count and count until the liberal is ahead - then stop counting. That's the Soviet liberal way.
30 posted on 12/23/2004 5:52:51 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: Publius
Oh, I had not heard Locke said he would resign, I was merely speaking of the law (not that that matters to Democrats).

Isn't that just typical of (useless Governor) Locke: resign rather than stay and do his civic duty serving his state.

31 posted on 12/23/2004 5:55:45 PM PST by SW6906
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To: quantim

Can you even imagine the outcry from the RATS if the Republicans had ''discovered'' ballots almost two months after an election in a ''warehouse'' somewhere, and demanded they be allowed into the legal ballot count?


32 posted on 12/23/2004 5:56:10 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: Publius

As we view the sad mess in this state, let us think about whether we have the gumption to do what now needs to be done.

Look for the hidden message.


33 posted on 12/23/2004 6:00:52 PM PST by hoagy62 (The reason for the Second Amendment is in case all the others fail.)
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To: Publius
GOV. CHRISTINE FRAUDOIRE

pass it on....!

34 posted on 12/23/2004 6:02:14 PM PST by HardStarboard (PASS)
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To: HHFi
Don't let the Dems steal your state.

They can't. They already own it.

Outside of Seattle and Tacoma, WA is a pretty much red state. Farmers, rural residents, residents of smaller cities and towns across the state have supported Seattle/Tacoma welfare bandits, "consultants" (all RATS) hired to figure out Seattle's freeway problems who never come up with a solution other than "we need another billion-buck study," million-dollar bike paths through Seattle that no one uses, illegals, street people, free bus service in Seattle, overstaffed and overpaid social services offices, and public payrolls weighted down with "employees" who never work.

Reason all this goes on and on endlessly is that the RATS have been in power for more than 20 years. And here we go again.

35 posted on 12/23/2004 6:05:16 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Publius
"We're very excited. We always believed she would win."

Ain't that the truth.

36 posted on 12/23/2004 6:08:41 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Elvis van Foster

I think allot of people are just upset that it was democrat officials that decided which votes would be counted. All the other counties refused to reconsider previously rejected ballots. Yet King County decided that they could change the rules and count more ballots. And despite being called newly discoverd ballots. They knew those voters had problems with their registration back in August and contacted most of them to correct the problem before the election, yet the voters either didn't respond and failed to make any reasonable effort to ensure that they were legally able to vote. It was only several weeks after the election that they made sure they were properly registered for the next election. They should have been re-examined during the second recount like all the other counties done with their ballots.

So allowing King County to change their own rules after the election to count previously rejected ballots, while not counting Military ballots, or ballots that they know are more likely to be republican has turned the whole process into a sham. If they don't re-evaluate all the rejected ballots in all the counties, then shouldn't count any of them. It's a matter of fairness and equality under election law.

Also it should be noted that a hand recount has a higher margin of error than a machine recount. The margin of error for counting over 2 million votes by hand would be well over 1000 votes. So the rusult is even less accurate and less trustworthy. Human's are more likely to make mistakes, and are more likely to apply their personal bias. There is hundreds of Rossi votes that won't be counted because democrats in the counties decided they wouldn't. So having biased democrats countroling the vote counting and controling the rules for which onces count. The process can be viewed as a joke by most fair minded people watching it. The only way to resolve such a close election were both candidates can claim victory within the margin of error is by following the rules set up for tied elections, or by having a new election that will not be tainted with charges of incompetence, fraud, and corruption.


37 posted on 12/23/2004 6:21:51 PM PST by gop-super-fan (W stands for Westerner, Women, and Winner.)
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To: Publius

Time was that you could easily see Rainier from Seattle, and that the Tacoma aroma was something you just lived with. Time was that Seattlites were friendly to outsiders, and glad to welcome people, as long as you could weather the black ice on I-5.

Time was, Washington got overrun with folks from outside wanting to make it all sophisticated and polished. The emerald city does have, after all, a namesake of a gemstone known for occlusion, corruption, and for more deaths from mine to market than most other stones.

Sounds like the pollution has spread to other endeavors, and that the fog has become biological in King County.

Sure am glad not to live there anymore, no matter how pretty it is, or, was.


38 posted on 12/23/2004 6:37:25 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: gop-super-fan

The dems have turned our country upside down. This kind of outright fraud is accepted simply because it is dem fraud. Then you have nuts like showed up on Hannity & Colmes tonight claiming that GWB did not receive more votes than ole Flip-Flop. Says the election will be challenged and that Bush may not be inaugurated in Jan. He made my blood boil. Did anyone else sse that? Talk about your tinfoil hat.


39 posted on 12/23/2004 7:22:06 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Bush gal in LA
I'd be embarressed to take office this way if I was that RAT woman! This is a terrible
scandal for the state of Washington and a travisty of justice!


Actually this is an image upgrade for Washington.
More people might vacation there, thinking it's actually Louisiana.
Now that the Queenfish (this century's answer to last century's Huey P. Long)
has stolen an election!
40 posted on 12/23/2004 7:25:46 PM PST by VOA
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