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(Rainbow) Flag stirs flap at Howell High
Ann Arbor News ^ | 12-23-04 | STEPHENIE KOEHN

Posted on 12/23/2004 12:27:36 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

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To: Dan from Michigan

At least they could've flown the Leather Pride fag, er, flag.


61 posted on 12/27/2004 11:28:53 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: McChordwatcher

Hard to believe today, but in the 1920s, much of Long Island (where I grew up) was northern Klan central.


62 posted on 12/27/2004 11:32:39 AM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"It's not a gay pride flag, like most people think, said junior Krista Tarrant, 16, a member of the club. "It represents diversity as a whole," said junior R.J. Cuthbertson, also 16 and a member of the club. "We put it up to show that everyone is safe here and this is an accepting community." Gotta love the obvious success indoctrination is having...
63 posted on 12/27/2004 12:02:29 PM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"We have to be very careful when we have a symbol that we don't identify just one meaning for it," Hamill said. In the case of the rainbow flag, she said, there is ample historical background. "(The Rev.) Jesse Jackson adopted it for the Rainbow Coalition (that he hoped to forge). I think that squares with our vision for the school. We want our students to be tolerant of others, no matter how they dress, look, learn or worship."

I think the student historical club should hang a flag with the stars and bars on it, then explain that it means a respect for the importance of studying history to the members of the club. That way, there won't be any controversy.

After all, you should be careful about attaching just one meaning to a symbol, even if it's the meaning that 99% of the people attach to the symbol.

Shalom.

64 posted on 12/27/2004 12:05:42 PM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: weegee

<< The crooked swastika .... is the Nazi logo. >>

Not "crooked" but left handed. The pagan-heathen, panthiest, death-worshipping Nazis used the left handed swastika -- a symbol of evil.


65 posted on 12/27/2004 12:13:00 PM PST by Brian Allen (For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord -- Luke 2:11)
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To: Brian Allen

The GOOD LUCK swastikas pictured in #23 are left handed AND right handed.


66 posted on 12/27/2004 1:58:27 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Only if they're French.


67 posted on 12/27/2004 2:22:18 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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To: Dan from Michigan

http://www.makethemaccountable.org/images/celebrate_diversity_guns.gif


68 posted on 12/27/2004 2:27:28 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: weegee

Nope, they're right handed.

Left-handed Swastika Legend

The origin of the Nazi flag is given by Francis King, Satan and Swastika: The Occult and the Nazi Party, Mayflower Books, 1976. On p. 117 it is stated that in early 1920 various designs for National Socialist flags were submitted to Hitler:

The one finally adopted was designed by Dr. Friedrich Krohn, a dentist from Sternberg showed the swastika on a white disk against a red background and was intended to symbolize the ideology of the movement — in red its social ideal, in white its nationalism -- and in the swastika "the struggle for the victory of Aryan man".

But Krohn's flag featured a right-handed swastika, traditional symbol of good fortune, spiritual evalution and the triumph of spirit over matter. The death-worshipping, pagan-heathen, pantheist-Satanist, Hitler, insisted on it being replaced by the left-handed swastika, regarded by occultists as the equivalent of a reversed crucifix, an evocation of evil, spiritual devolution and black magic.


69 posted on 12/27/2004 2:33:29 PM PST by Brian Allen (For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord -- Luke 2:11)
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To: RebelBanker

Humpty Dumpty.


70 posted on 12/27/2004 2:35:37 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: Brian Allen
GOOD LUCK (right handed):

GOOD LUCK (left handed):

If Americans held conviction on that symbolism it would be akin to putting on "3 leaf clover" and "Lucky 13!".

71 posted on 12/27/2004 2:49:10 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: McChordwatcher; Clemenza
The area has changed a lot and has doubled in size since 1980. I'm an 'old-timer' here and I'm in my 20's. I will nitpick and say that the Klan was in Cohoctah Townhip, not Howell(where I live now). Robert Miles has been dead for about 15 years. His legacy is pretty much dead as well, although the reputation does live on. I'd say the county is no more or less racist than anywhere else in Michigan.

A lot of "new money" started coming in the 80's. Mostly to Brighton, but that area is mostly now priced out of the market unless you have $300K to spend on a home. Brighton(and Milford and South Lyon) is now almost 1980's Novi(which is now almost 1980's Farmington Hills). Hartland is Highland West. Howell is booming as well and is "late 80's/early 90's Brighton", and there's a lot of growth in Pinckney and Fowlerville as well.

The good thing is that I haven't seen as much of the "rich suburban liberal" crap out here - outside of our local rag of a newspaper whose endorsement is joked as the "kiss of death" election time. Elitists or even perceived elitists aren't very popular in the political landscape here. The area is fairly liberal on school spending, but that's about it, although Brighton City is becoming much more liberal (Approx 53-56% GOP) than the rest of the county(62-65% GOP). That's probably due to being 20 miles from Ann Arbor, and the number of apartments there. However, most from those "rich liberal soccer mom areas" generally seem to be fleeing that crap - so far.

I do miss the country though, and I wish those who moved for the country didn't bring the city with them. Those who want to be a Novi should move there. Those who want the city should fix their old cities.

72 posted on 12/27/2004 3:09:05 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Squantos
LOL. If I was a student I'd bring that in.

I will say that there was a little diversity crap when I was in high school. However, I don't think the answers to questions were what most teachers were looking for....

BTW - Bob Dole won the school election here.

73 posted on 12/27/2004 3:12:27 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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74 posted on 12/28/2004 5:24:26 AM PST by Born Conservative (Entertainment is a thing of the past, today we've got television - Archie Bunker)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

What I find most disgusting is that they (the homosexual community) have taken the rainbow (a symbol from God) and used it for a flag that represents the glorification of a disgusting lifestyle. Parents really need to wake up and tell their children that we should love all people, BUT we should call sin what it is.

I agree. It has put the both sides into disarray on the issue. Now, it seems like diversity in the schools is a dirty word to some conservatives that only espouses homosexualism. I teach some diversity in my class, but it means to me respecting people and treating them fairly. It has nothing to do with homosexual overtones at all for me and many teachers (I don't believe that homosexual issues really belong in public schools anyway).


75 posted on 12/30/2004 11:22:20 AM PST by moog
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To: Teacher317

I have no problem with a Confederate flag in an educational sense. I really think that a LOT of conservatives and liberals go overboard with the PC c_ap. It's okay as long as it fits their political beliefs, but if it doesn't, oh boy!!!


76 posted on 12/30/2004 11:24:50 AM PST by moog
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To: Dan from Michigan

My nephew goes to this school. I can guess what his reaction is. He would be against it.


77 posted on 12/30/2004 11:32:40 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: moog

I whole heartily agree with you, sexuality should not be taught at school (or various "choices"). It has no place in the school forum.


78 posted on 12/30/2004 3:35:47 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I know this may come as a surprise, given the negative propaganda that teachers receive at the expense of the school choice liberals and the press, but MOST of us agree with your statement and we agree that it is best taught in the home, a home with 2 parents who spend time with their children.


79 posted on 01/03/2005 6:49:15 AM PST by moog
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To: moog

That is not surprising to me, my daughter has been very blessed by having Christian school teachers, I hope God will continue blessing us. I wish the rest of the country could see how much better off children are when they have two parents (male & female) raising them, and spending time with them. I chose this for my children after coming from a single parent household.


80 posted on 01/03/2005 1:44:33 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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