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To: little jeremiah

And how many people need to stop and think about their position on same-sex siblings marrying. It's a logical conclusion to his position and a no-brainer for those who have nothing to hide.


674 posted on 01/13/2005 11:43:01 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

He's playing stupid games, not being honest, he's all pretense and falsity. And I'm not going to add his name in the "to" box even if I'm referring to him.

There's nothing I loathe more than a liar. It's like trying to grab smoke. You can't debate honestly with slime that lies.


675 posted on 01/13/2005 11:49:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: scripter
And how many people need to stop and think about their position on same-sex siblings marrying. It's a logical conclusion to his position and a no-brainer for those who have nothing to hide

OK, we have established that YOU never need to stop and think about anything. We also have established that you engage in linear reasoning, i.e. certain things MUST follow from other things.

But your position presumes that no one ever adjusts their thinking to adapt to prevailing circumstances or unanticipated consequences. Example: many persons associate themselves with the so-called "pro-choice" position on abortion. Opponents often describe this as "abortion on demand". It would, therefore, be "logical" to assume that all "pro-choice" advocates would be opposed to parental notification laws for minors seeking abortion. However, polling shows that a very sizable chunk of the pro-choice side of the abortion debate, ACTUALLY DOES FAVOR parental notification laws! So, once again, this is an example of how your linear "logic" would cause you to arrive at a defective conclusion.

If, as you say, I am "hiding" something -- then it must be for a purpose. What would that purpose be?

Is there some group of people participating in this thread that eagerly await every new message I post in order to decide whether or not they will associate themselves with my position? Thus, I am "hiding" my true position so as not to alienate them?

I have already told you, explicitly, that I could decide to support same-sex sibling marriages after giving it consideration. From your standpoint---isn't that, by itself, sufficient grounds to attack me? So, if I was REALLY trying to "hide" --- why would I even give you that opening for an attack?

Suppose that during the next 24 hours, I decide to consider the pros and cons about this question. Suppose, further, that tomorrow I post a message saying: "Scripter, I have re-considered your question and I have decided that I DO NOT support same-sex sibling marriages." Wouldn't you then respond by telling me I am "lying"...because it is "the logical conclusion" to my position? So what possible difference does it make to you what I say in this regard? Your mind is already made up. Why ask questions if you won't accept any answer that doesn't conform to your pre-suppositions?

678 posted on 01/14/2005 9:34:48 AM PST by Ernie.cal
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