[this_ol_patriot]

French Poodles and Burpee's Big Boy tomato are prime examples of design at the hands of intelligence or are you saying that lap dogs and hamburger sized tomatoes just come about randomly?

Isn't it awfully jingoistic to think that man is the only intelligence that can manipulate nature to suit his own needs?

[RadioAstronomer]

ping.

[grey_whiskers]

Isn't it awfully jingoistic to think that man is the only intelligence that can manipulate nature to suit his own needs?

The claim seems to be that positing a supernatural creator is by definition not scientific (it is, well, supernatural), as well as unnecessary to account for the diversity of species as currently observerd.

[Quix]

WELL SAID.