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To: puroresu
They'll never let it be put to the competitive test in the marketplace of ideas.

Evolution is put to the competitive test every day. There is a Nobel waiting in the wings should someone supersede it with a better theory.

15 posted on 12/21/2004 8:28:08 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer

"Evolution is put to the competitive test every day."

That is also a falsehood. The only "competition" evoluntarily theory is faced with are about arguements over the mechanisms. The theory is so inculcated into the heads of people, that the basic premise is never argued or questioned by the vast majority.

Is this because it is such a good explaination? No, it is because it the the best explaination that can be come up with that excludes the requirement for a "creator." If there is a creator, then those created could be answerable to him(it). That is unacceptable by most.


20 posted on 12/21/2004 8:38:14 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Yeah, I've heard that Nobel argument before. However, since the debate has been defined to exclude any possibility of God, it's a hollow argument. You're basically saying, "Come up with a better theory than evolution that doesn't rely on God".

Sorry. Can't be done. If God doesn't exist, then evolution is the best explanation for how life on earth came to be. It's the best thing anyone can come up with under those circumstances.


So we're stuck here like a broken record, arguing day in and day out.


23 posted on 12/21/2004 8:39:39 PM PST by puroresu
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To: RadioAstronomer

HOGWASH.

IF you are remotely as "scientific" as you hold yourself out to be, you know good and well that you can't really get published in even minor juried professional publications unless your RELIGION-OF-SCIENCE-DOCTRINES AND SUB DOCTRINES are slavishly in line with the GROUP THINK of that particular discipline.

IF you don't know that, then I question whether you are in sufficient touch with 'scientific' 'reality' to carry your end of the discussion intelligently or honestly or . . . congruently with objective reality.


872 posted on 12/27/2004 10:13:56 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: RadioAstronomer

You know this sort of thing really burns me. I was taught in public school back in the 60's that a theory and a fact are two separate things. One starts with an hypothesis, moves to a theory and finally after a proof has a fact that is verifiably. To my knowledge a theory is not a fact! What you are representing as science is simply another faith based system. Intelligent Design is another theory that makes more sense than the theory of accidental chance that we commonly call evolution. There is no sense in arguing with evolutionists since it is your Faith. What we have today is a state religion under the guise of "science."


955 posted on 12/28/2004 5:44:14 PM PST by RichardMoore
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