Posted on 12/21/2004 7:59:02 PM PST by postitnews.com
HARRISBURG, PA-The American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and attorneys with Pepper Hamilton LLP filed a federal lawsuit today on behalf of 11 parents who say that presenting "intelligent design" in public school science classrooms violates their religious liberty by promoting particular religious beliefs to their children under the guise of science education.
"Teaching students about religion's role in world history and culture is proper, but disguising a particular religious belief as science is not," said ACLU of Pennsylvania Legal Director Witold Walczak. "Intelligent design is a Trojan Horse for bringing religious creationism back into public school science classes."
The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United Executive Director, added, "Public schools are not Sunday schools, and we must resist any efforts to make them so. There is an evolving attack under way on sound science...Read More
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Merry Christams to you as well.
If their faith is that shaky, they have more problems that some words or posts on some crevo thread.
Chance has little to do with it. The processes assumed by evolution are regular, consistent and lawful. Every process assumed by evolution has been observed. Obviously the entire history of life has not been observed, nor is there any explanation of its beginning. Nor is there any foreseeable point at which every question will be answered.
Speaking of regular processes, perhaps you'd like to tackle a few questions from the perspective of ID.
I don't think that ID is offering itself as an "alternative" to evolutionary theory. Indeed, I understand it as attempting to fill in the glaring gaps in Darwinist theory -- e.g., the role of information in the evolution of biological life. I know of no ID theorist who is "pushing God."
It is quite clear (to me at least) that life is an evolutionary process. But somewhere along the line, matter had to "get smart" in order for life to evolve. ID seeks to explain the mechanism for this. No more and no less.
The fact that Darwinism (at least neo-Darwinism) refuses to admit that there is any shortcoming in its theory whatsoever suggests to me that it has become a cult, in the strict meaning of that word. As such, it is a victim of "arrested development." FWIW, it seems to me that science is not well served by the Darwinist's relentless closure to ideas being developed in physics, information science, and other fields that purport "fill in the gaps" of the Darwinist account -- which is the method of (the most unfortunately named) Intelligent Design. Had they called this field something else -- anything else! -- it probably wouldn't be encountering all this irrational flak from "true believers."
Ever had a dog? Ever observe a wolf pack? Are you suggesting that love is not useful?
And yet another creationists dishonestly asserts that evolution = atheism.
#####I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'd sooner believe Michael Moore than many of the creationists around here.#####
Why shouldn't you? He's surely an evolutionist! :-)
IMHO, it is trying to.
Indeed, I understand it as attempting to fill in the glaring gaps in Darwinist theory -- e.g., the role of information in the evolution of biological life. I know of no ID theorist who is "pushing God."
Gaps yes, but such is science. Some are being filled in a we speak, other may never be. Welcome to a scientific theory. :-) And yes "ID" by the very nature of the wording posits a diety. Thusly ID is "pushing" God.
It is quite clear (to me at least) that life is an evolutionary process.
For me as well! :-)
But somewhere along the line, matter had to "get smart" in order for life to evolve. ID seeks to explain the mechanism for this. No more and no less.
Why?
The fact that Darwinism (at least neo-Darwinism) refuses to admit that there is any shortcoming in its theory whatsoever suggests to me that it has become a cult, in the strict meaning of that word. As such, it is a victim of "arrested development." FWIW, it seems to me that science is not well served by the Darwinist's relentless closure to ideas being developed in physics, information science, and other fields that purport "fill in the gaps" of the Darwinist account -- which is the method of (the most unfortunately named) Intelligent Design. Had they called this field something else -- anything else! -- it probably wouldn't be encountering all this irrational flak from "true believers."
As far as I know, there is no theory called "Darwinism". However, the theory of evolution is being tested every day.
RadioAstronomer, I would tend to agree with you that Intelligent Design implies a Creator. We surely disagree on the theory that accumulated mutations can account for the diversity of life on earth.
However, agree or disagree, let me also wish you a Merry Christmas and say thanks to you for your polite demeanor in discussing issues here.
Refusal to allow opposing viewpoints into one's political party is liberal trait.
If you are looking for mindless adherence to the party line, go to DU.
I guess these atheist poster consider themselves some sort of a Republican, or more likely, Libertarian, else they wouldn't be posting on Free Republic. The whole lot of you are no better than the demonrats, marxists, abortionists, queers, ACLU, anti-Christmas warriors, and those who tear down the ten commandments, in my opinion
Well, you know what they say about opinions and buttholes....
How about "In the beginning?" I keep wondering we are made from "dust" if dust isn't capable of being alive.
Personally, I think matter has been given a bum rap, a baseless assumption that matter does not merge seamlessly with the spiritual (the spritual being our designation for what we currently don't understand).
You are most welcome. I try not to step on a persons faith. Heck, I sure don't have all the answers.
Merry Chrismas! :-)
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