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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...
Catholic ping!

CANDIDATES for sainthood will be exonerated from the requirement to have performed a miracle under guidelines being considered by the Pope.

Pray that the Holy Father doesn't do this!!!!

He believes that “latter-day saints” offer a much-needed example at a time when Christianity is under threat from secularism and rival religions.

We have PLENTY of examples to look to. One only needs to look not even a hundred years to look for holy people who resisted secular and demonic forces.

Our Lady of Perpetual Help, pray for us!
St. Joseph, protector of the Universal Church, pray for us!
St. Catherine of Siena, converter of countless souls, pray for us!
St. John Fisher, holy example to bishops, pray for us!
Pope St. Pius V, defender of the Church, pray for us!
St. Gemma Galgani, slave to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, pray for us!
St. Maximilian Kolbe, missionary of the Immaculata, pray for us!

34 posted on 12/20/2004 8:46:54 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genitrix.... sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper...)
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Yesterday Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Archbishop of Genoa, disclosed that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Pope’s ideologial “enforcer” for two decades, had presented a formula for the abolition of the “the miracle clause” to the Pope. Cardinal Bertone said that there was a growing feeling in the Vatican that the need for miracles for both beatification and canonisation was “anachronistic”.
42 posted on 12/20/2004 9:20:42 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Pyro7480

God help us! I strain and strain to convince myself that this guy is not hellbent on destroying the Church.

St. Michael, defend us!


69 posted on 12/20/2004 10:53:53 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: Pyro7480

I'd always thought that being formally canonized as a saint (the formal title as opposed to the general position that all Christians are saints) was a long and very careful process that was done in stages. This was done to ensure that the formal title of Saint was given to those that merited it, such as those who did work miracles through the Holy Spirit, made extraordinary contributions to the Church, etc. At least that was what I read over the six years that lead to my crossing of the Tiber. I guess I'll be reamed for being a traditionalist on this issue, but I do not think this lowering of the bar, so to speak, should even be considered, much less implemented.

The formal title of Saint is meant for those who are extraordinary examples of holiness, faith, hope, charity, wisdom, and perseverence; people we were to look at for role models in living the Christian life and to help us in our walk. There are saints form all walks of life and all sotrs of personalities, so each of us could find people who have gone before us to relate to.

At least, that was my understanding from what I read during my six years of moving closer to the Catholic Church. But then again, I'm just one of those "dumb" converts, what the heck do I know (tongue in cheek).


109 posted on 12/21/2004 5:19:13 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Pyro7480
"Pray that the Holy Father doesn't do this!!!!"

It seems that the Church is being dismantled brick by brick. This is getting harder and harder for me to deny.
214 posted on 12/21/2004 2:36:47 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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