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To: Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; pascendi; nickcarraway; Maximilian; MarineMomJ; sempertrad; ...
Yesterday Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Archbishop of Genoa, disclosed that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Pope’s ideologial “enforcer” for two decades, had presented a formula for the abolition of the “the miracle clause” to the Pope. Cardinal Bertone said that there was a growing feeling in the Vatican that the need for miracles for both beatification and canonisation was “anachronistic”.
42 posted on 12/20/2004 9:20:42 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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Sure miracles are "anachronistic"--to those who don't believe in them. Which may be why Kasper was made a cardinal. He openly doubted the historicity of Gospel miracles. Didn't much bother the Pope--who not only canonizes the unholy, but awards red hat to the heretical.


97 posted on 12/21/2004 4:18:41 AM PST by ultima ratio
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Let's not forget the new cafe-bar on the dome of St. Peter's Basilica. TRUE!!!

St Peter's opens "basilica bar"

Mon Dec 20, 8:58 AM ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The view is hard to beat, the atmosphere can be, well, heavenly, and the coffee isn't bad either. St Peter's Basilica now has its own rooftop coffee bar.

The bar on the roof of Christendom's largest church opened several months ago without fanfare but even many Vatican (news - web sites) officials and employees did not know about it until Monday when an Italian paper splashed the "discovery" on its front page.

Located on the terrace at the base of the cupola designed by Michelangelo, it commands a breathtaking view of St Peter's Square all the way to the Tiber River and beyond.

It is open to tourists who have already visited the top of Michelangelo's dome and who want to stop for a coffee or soft drink on their way back down to earth.

The bar does not have a name -- the sign over its entrance reads only "Ristoro/Refreshment" -- but an Italian newspaper dubbed it "The Holy Apostolic Cafeteria."

An engraved sign on a terrace wall reminds visitors to consume the drinks before continuing their visit to the basilica. And while the spirit of the place may be there, spirits are not. Unlike its counterparts in Italy, the basilica bar does not serve alcoholic beverages.

225 posted on 12/21/2004 8:18:59 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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