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This debate brings to the fore a most complicated and acutely important aspect of the Islamic challenge to Western Democracy -- and the long-term threat implicit therein.

IMO, no procedures or techniques introduced into the national fabric of social discourse will be adequate to compete against this civilizational confrontation over the long term. We will continue to have these minor "flaps" over the cultural and political aspects of this confrontation, but we will fail to address the threat in its totality.

I suspect that even when we have another major national event comparable to 9/11, the debate will rage as to whether we should re-introduce mandatory national service, etc. And, there will be the do-gooders that will be perfectly content to let our increasingly "hessianized"
all-volunteer force continue to do our heavy national lifting.

Europe is already lost. Leicester, England is already majority Muslim, if one could have imagined. Sweden will be over 50% Islamic within two decades, etc. The ludicrous EU discussions about deportation on one hand, flies in the face of the debate relative to Turkish inclusion on the other. And, so it goes on the "lost continent".

IMO, there is absolutely nothing that can be realistically be done to address this issue at the national level that ultimately does not have the support of the populace. And, that, is the great difficulty here.

Civilizational and attendant cultural transitions are measured in decades and centuries. The American people are horribly equipped to perceive -- and ultimately come to grips -- with a challenge of this magnitude, couched in demographic and multi-faceted socio-political terms of long-term portent.

Thank you for your patience. DKP