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BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS, Hardly Any Predictions Came True
ASSIST News Service ^ | 12/16/04 | Wolfgang Polzer

Posted on 12/17/2004 7:11:05 AM PST by dukeman

DARMSTADT -- It was a bad year for astrologers. The Society for Scientific Research of Para-Sciences in Rossdorf near Darmstadt, Germany, examined 90 predictions about the year 2004; none of them came true.

One astrologer predicted in 2003 that US-President George W. Bush would be assassinated. Los Angeles was due to be destroyed by asteroids. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder should have handed in his resignation and would have been replaced by opposition leader Angela Merkel according to astrological forecasts.

“Clairvoyants usually turn out to be failures,” says mathematician Michael Kunkel of the Society. He recalls that astrologer Patricia Bahrani predicted a terror attack on Berlin and Anton Tewes even a nuclear attack on New York.

Forecasts about the fate of celebrities also turned out to be false. Astrologers foresaw the death of 84-year-old Pope John Paul II. – he is still alive though in weak health. Others said that Michael Jackson would commit suicide – he is still awaiting his trial for child abuse.

Some predictions are so general that they may be interpreted either way. Others are incomprehensible to normal human beings. Astrologer Rosalinde Haller, for instance, foresaw “serial vibrations in Southern Australia”. She did not even bother to explain what she meant, commented Kunkel.


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To: fishtank

Tons of 'em on that station.


21 posted on 12/17/2004 7:27:29 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: COBOL2Java

I guess if you apply scientific methods to study para-science its still scientific research regardless of the validity of the subject being studied.

(I've read my own statement three times and I think it makes sense, but let me know if it doesn't)


22 posted on 12/17/2004 7:29:15 AM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: dukeman
>BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS, Hardly Any Predictions Came True

Somebody should track
week-in-advance forecasts on
the Weather Channel.

I'd bet their record
is pretty bad, too, and they
build on results from

computer models.
at least astrologers don't
pretend they're science.

23 posted on 12/17/2004 7:29:43 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: dukeman

Hey, the year isn't over yet. Cut 'em some slack!! </sarcasm>
;^D


24 posted on 12/17/2004 7:30:21 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: ROTB

Yes He did! A view I've reached is that God has reserved to Himself the practice of foretelling the future and empowering prophets to do so. These predictions authenticate Scripture and the identity of Christ. It's all there for us to see thousands of years later.


25 posted on 12/17/2004 7:31:08 AM PST by dukeman
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To: dukeman
They used work before Kepler and Newton screwed everything up.
26 posted on 12/17/2004 7:34:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: AreaMan
I don't have great sources other than scripture itself. However, most scholars indicate they were probably Persian astrologers - and certainly more than 3 of 'em! They also, however, would have known ancient scripture (such as Micah 5:2), which was the greater part of their wisdom.

Though I am a berean, trusting scripture above all, I think this is a good human author. He has written on the subject.

27 posted on 12/17/2004 7:35:02 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: dukeman
We used to buy Weekly World News to keep in the bathroom. (Where else would you read 'toilet paper'?) I saved some prediction pages for this century, but, alas, I lost them in a house fire.
28 posted on 12/17/2004 7:35:22 AM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: AreaMan

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I've always wondered about the Magi. They were from the east and not Jews but they saw signs in the stars that led them to the Messiah. Details of their "faith" are limited.

Know of any good historical resources on these guys?
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Magi is just another term for Wise man; it didn't have the occult connotation it does today.

The story of the Magi in the NT hints at some very interesting things.

Was the teaching of a coming Messiah specific only known to the Jews or did other peoples also have a knowledge of it?

Did the Magi know to look for the star because they had their own scriptural writings?

Was there a Judaic or Christian faith outside of Israel we no longer have a record of?


29 posted on 12/17/2004 7:36:13 AM PST by frgoff
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To: fishtank
"There's several on TBN - The Blasphemy Network. "

SEVERAL?????

Man! THAT'S the understatement of the year! LOL

30 posted on 12/17/2004 7:36:53 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Geezerette
yea, well I've still got some can goods in the pantry from the millennium predictions in 1999 LOL...
those clowns are on Art Bell's graveyard shift for a reason...they have less credibility than a screen door on a submarine...btw is Art still looking for UFO's? LMAO
31 posted on 12/17/2004 7:38:56 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
"those clowns are on Art Bell's graveyard shift for a reason...they have less credibility than a screen door on a submarine"

Tell that to their kook fans/avid listeners that post here on FR daily.

But then we also have the TBN "fans" who post here, too. And those grifters are on 24/7 - not just during the "graveyard" shift.

32 posted on 12/17/2004 7:47:46 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: dukeman

I predict that within the next 10 minutes, every living human being will inhale at least once.

In fact, I'll go so far as to predict the every living human being will inhale a breath of air at least TWICE.

Am I an amazing predicter of the future or what!


33 posted on 12/17/2004 7:50:06 AM PST by gogogodzilla
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To: AreaMan
They were Zoroastrians. Persian scholars who were heavily into astronomy and astrology. They believed deeply in a single supreme being and the coming of the messiah through the Jewish religion to found a new religion. So they were waiting for this event and watching for signs in the constellation Pieces (the fish) because that was the Jewish sign in the heavens. This just didn't come up out of the blue, they were waiting for it because they knew Jewish scripture.

This link will get you started, but you can google up some more links on your own.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/zoroastr.htm
34 posted on 12/17/2004 7:52:15 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: oh8eleven

John F#$%@ Kerry DID win the election. MSM said so, and you know they do not lie. My relatives in Italy, Spain and Switzerland confirmed it. (Sarc...)


35 posted on 12/17/2004 7:56:16 AM PST by RexFamilia
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To: mbynack

LOL!


36 posted on 12/17/2004 8:02:26 AM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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To: theFIRMbss

Haikus! I love haikus. And LOL on the weather forecasters!


37 posted on 12/17/2004 8:04:15 AM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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To: gogogodzilla
In fact, I'll go so far as to predict the every living human being will inhale a breath of air at least TWICE.
Heck, I'll go even further and predict they all exhale too.
38 posted on 12/17/2004 8:24:31 AM PST by oh8eleven
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To: dukeman

"BAD YEAR FOR ASTROLOGERS, Hardly Any Predictions Came True"

..for the five thousandth year in a row.


39 posted on 12/17/2004 8:33:16 AM PST by Busywhiskers (You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.)
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To: fortunecookie
If you love hiaku, then you'll REALLY love this thread! Enjoy.
40 posted on 12/17/2004 8:45:43 AM PST by dukeman
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