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Yanks reach a deal for Randy
Newsday ^ | 12/16 | JON HEYMAN

Posted on 12/16/2004 6:54:55 PM PST by alydar

The Yankees have reached agreement on the principal players in a three-team blockbuster trade that would land them coveted lefthander Randy Johnson, Newsday has learned. A few details have yet to be worked out, but indications are they are not big enough obstacles to kill the deal. The Yankees would receive the 41-year-old Johnson in the deal while sending pitcher Javier Vazquez and two minor-league prospects, catcher Dioner Navarro and third baseman Eric Duncan, to the Dodgers, according to an Arizona source. The Dodgers would send pitchers Brad Penny and Yhency Brazoban and outfielder/first baseman Shawn Green to Arizona to complete the deal. Johnson and Green both have no-trade clauses. Johnson has been requesting a trade to the Yankees for quite a while, so he will surely give his OK. Green's former agent is Jeff Moorad, who currently runs the Diamondbacks, so there's a great likelihood he would also approve the deal. The other issues involve perks in Johnson's contract and how he would be reimbursed for the loss of them with a trade to the Yankees, such as his tickets to Phoenix Suns games, and physicals for the players involved.

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1 posted on 12/16/2004 6:54:55 PM PST by alydar
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To: alydar

My Orioles are asleep at the wheel.


2 posted on 12/16/2004 6:57:02 PM PST by Angry Republican (Did anybody actually vote FOR John Kerry?)
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To: alydar

F new york
F the yankees.


3 posted on 12/16/2004 6:57:23 PM PST by dennis1x
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To: alydar

If they had gotten Johnson when they could have this year, Boston would not be world champs and the Yankees would be. The Ynaks just had no pitching depth. A mistake they seem to be fixing as fast as they can.


4 posted on 12/16/2004 7:00:05 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: alydar

It doesn't matter. The Hillary Curse will continue.


5 posted on 12/16/2004 7:00:10 PM PST by buckeyesrule
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To: alydar

The Dodgers can't be that stupid, can they?

They've already lost Beltre and now this.I hope it doesn't happen

The only bright spot I could see would be a Johnson/Schilling match-up


6 posted on 12/16/2004 7:02:20 PM PST by doingtherightthing
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To: alydar

When the Yankees claimed the deal was dead, the deal became a certainty. And, while RJ was a great pitcher, he is 41 and I really question how much longer he can go on. He also has a history of back problems and, at 41, a recurrence could end his season at anytime. The Yanks are taking a big risk, IMO.


7 posted on 12/16/2004 7:04:52 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: bushisdamanin04

I know rather little about Johnson other than what I pick up around the edges. Any idea what kind of middle relief or closer he might be if used in that role?


8 posted on 12/16/2004 7:07:39 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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'The Yanks are taking a big risk, IMO'..............Agree,but a 41 RJ is less a risk then 33yo Pedro Martinez.I think they're looking at him as Clemmons type.
9 posted on 12/16/2004 7:11:30 PM PST by alydar
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To: ProudVet77

RJ was here in Seattle for years and is a great talent, but was somewhat of a head case. I do not believe that his fragile psyche could handle being made a reliever. He would pout for the remainder of the season.


10 posted on 12/16/2004 7:13:20 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: alydar

The Yanks are having a pretty good winter. If this goes through, and they sign Carlos Beltran, they will have gone a long way to make up for their short-sightedness of last year. Johnson/Mussina/Pavano/Wright is a pretty good foursome. They have definitely gained ground on Boston so far, especially with Hudson now signed with Atlanta. But Theo Epstein is awfully crafty, and I am sure he is not finished by a long shot. The off-season has become as interesting as the actual games themselves.


11 posted on 12/16/2004 7:14:25 PM PST by speedy
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To: alydar

I agree with you. The Mets were down right stupid for not only signing him, but for apparently waiving a serious physical. Pedro will be a huge bust in Queens.


12 posted on 12/16/2004 7:15:16 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: alydar

I don't get it...how can Johnson leave the D'backs, who beat the Yankees in the 2001 World Series, for a team which has not won the World Series in this millennium? Granted, Arizona didn't have such a great year this year, but they did win some games.


13 posted on 12/16/2004 7:15:58 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ProudVet77

No chance you'll see him as a middle reliever.Yanks starting pitching was pathetic last year.


14 posted on 12/16/2004 7:16:09 PM PST by alydar
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To: speedy

You have RJ listed as their #1 starter and Moose #2. That is how I would look at it also. Moose is a good pitcher, but doesn't have what it takes to be the ace in NY. He is much better in the #2 slot.


15 posted on 12/16/2004 7:17:18 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: F16Fighter; Mr. Mojo; NYCVirago

Three months too late ping.


16 posted on 12/16/2004 7:20:02 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: bushisdamanin04

Definitely The Unit goes to the head of the class. Mussina is just not the horse Johnson is, and in fact with the Yanks he is more effective being a 2 or 3 guy like he was before last year. They still need a number five -- could bring back El Duque and were looking at Milton. And no first baseman as far as I can tell, unless they actually hope to rehabilitate Giambi, which I think is impossible. Why did they let Olerud go? I know Boston has its eye on A.J. Burnett, so the Yankees might want to shift their attention to him, if only to block the Red Sox.


17 posted on 12/16/2004 7:24:21 PM PST by speedy
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To: lavrenti

You've got that right. The Yanks would have definitely taken it all had they been able to land Johnson last summer, but as I recall, Colangelo preferred paying out the bucks to making any deal that would help the Yankees. After he had already pretty much given away Schilling. He certainly should have been voted a World Series share by Boston.


18 posted on 12/16/2004 7:27:04 PM PST by speedy
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To: speedy
Yes, Moose is much more comfortable being a steady contributor rather than the main man. And, yes, he did suffer for it last year. I look for him to have a real good 2005.

Giambi is toast. I believe that Bonds will be able to handle the intense booing that he'll get on the road - jerks are usually impervious to it - but it will eat Giambi alive. He might want to consider Japan.

19 posted on 12/16/2004 7:29:00 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: lavrenti
"Three months too late ping."

Thinkin' that too, bro.

Insert Johnson or Clemens (that b@stard) for that matter into Kevins Brown's spots in the ALCS and we run another WS flag along the Stadium facade.

20 posted on 12/16/2004 7:35:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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