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Bush Prepares for Possible GPS Shutdown
washingtonpost.com ^ | Thursday, December 16, 2004 | Ted Bridis

Posted on 12/16/2004 7:04:56 AM PST by crushelits

WASHINGTON - President Bush has ordered plans for temporarily disabling the U.S. network of global positioning satellites during a national crisis to prevent terrorists from using the navigational technology, the White House said Wednesday.

Any shutdown of the network inside the United States would come under only the most remarkable circumstances, said a Bush administration official who spoke to a small group of reporters at the White House on condition of anonymity.

The GPS system is vital to commercial aviation and marine shipping.

The president also instructed the Defense Department to develop plans to disable, in certain areas, an enemy's access to the U.S. navigational satellites and to similar systems operated by others. The European Union is developing a $4.8 billion program, called Galileo.

The military increasingly uses GPS technology to move troops across large areas and direct bombs and missiles. Any government-ordered shutdown or jamming of the GPS satellites would be done in ways to limit disruptions to navigation and related systems outside the affected area, the White House said.

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1 posted on 12/16/2004 7:04:56 AM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits

Maybe this info will get the attention of the "What do we need Loran for" crowd.


2 posted on 12/16/2004 7:07:11 AM PST by kahoutek
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To: crushelits

IIRC, the GPS isn't really "shut down" it's encrypted to ensure authorized use only.

I could be wrong but I'd swear that was what I was taught in 1992 when I first trained on the GPS.


3 posted on 12/16/2004 7:07:28 AM PST by American_Centurion (I am the martyrs' bane.)
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To: crushelits

OnStar ain't gonna like this!

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4 posted on 12/16/2004 7:09:07 AM PST by viaveritasvita (Contend for the Truth of God against false teaching. Jude 1:3)
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To: crushelits

It's always great to be extra cautious, but I have a hard time believing that terrorists are smart enough to utilise GPS. I mean, the 9-11 attacks were a very crude undertaking. Effective, unfortunately, but crude. It is good not to underestimate the enemy though.

I still maintain the west will win this war because we are, and always will be, smarter than these people.


5 posted on 12/16/2004 7:13:04 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: crushelits
Oh boy!

How will I ever find my fishing numbers. ;)

6 posted on 12/16/2004 7:13:27 AM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: crushelits

Always know how to use the map and compass - they will never fail.


7 posted on 12/16/2004 7:14:03 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

How will the Army and Airforce's GPS guided bombs work if they shut it down completely?


8 posted on 12/16/2004 7:17:39 AM PST by boofus
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To: American_Centurion
Re: GPS encrypted

GPS has some intentional noise introduced into its signal to limit the accuracy of receivers - a cheap GPS unit would be able to say "I'm within a 100-foot circle of here". Military gear had the capability of removing the noise, so GI's could be "here" within a much smaller circle of error.

In 2000 or so, the military removed the noise from the signal so everyone could be "here", closer together.

BTW, GPS stands for "gets people somewhere".

9 posted on 12/16/2004 7:18:25 AM PST by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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To: Fudd

There are encrypted versions of GPS.


10 posted on 12/16/2004 7:20:53 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Ashamed Canadian

I believe that the 9-11 terrorists used GPS on the planes to find their targets. I bring my GPS on the plane whenever I travel & you can see actual streets. All they would have to do is mark waypoints on the ground and then fly toward them.


11 posted on 12/16/2004 7:21:10 AM PST by Filterhead
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To: Ashamed Canadian
...I have a hard time believing that terrorists are smart enough to utilise GPS.

You've got to be kidding. If they are so technically inept, why can't we track down the exact source of postings to Jihadi internet sites (like the Bin Laden tape just posted)?

As for 9-11, they did have to learn how to fly those planes to have any chance of success in their final goals for that day, and they methodically did just that. Why should learning to use GPS be any different?

As you said, it's never a good idea to underestimate your enemy.
12 posted on 12/16/2004 7:21:44 AM PST by TheCornerOffice
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To: crushelits

This would result in chaos among those aircraft aloft. More and more pilots are using GPS as their sole navigational device.

GPS was supposed to have been a add-on nav device. Predictably, it has become the sole nav device for most pilots.


13 posted on 12/16/2004 7:24:01 AM PST by pabianice
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To: crushelits
This is the third time this has been posted. But it's old news. Very old news. GPS always has been liable to shut downs in war.

I make my living selling GPS systems. Publishing old news like this to spook people will not help me make a living.

This kind of thing won't just cause some "minor inconvinences". It will shut down entire industries.

Government DOES NOT want to do this.

It's like closing all streets and roads, ALL OF THEM, because terrorists used roads to deliver truck bombs.

14 posted on 12/16/2004 7:29:25 AM PST by narby
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To: kahoutek

I still use my Loran C with joy. Other than those fickle changeover zones which you only hit every 600 miles or so for a brief unusable indication, I find my Northstar Loran to be as accurate as the GPS. As a matter of fact, the overlay of an NDB approach using all three finds the ADF to be the worst, the GPS to be second worse, and the LORAN C to be the best. Every time I switch it on I expect to get no signal acquisition, having been hearing about it being switched off for a decade now. I smile and love it when it's still up and running.


15 posted on 12/16/2004 7:30:49 AM PST by blackdog (May Islam meet Tennyson's "Ninth Wave" in my lifetime.)
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To: Ashamed Canadian
I have a hard time believing that terrorists are smart enough to utilise GPS.

From the wobbly flight paths taken by the 911 terrorists, you are right, they were not using GPS equipment.

I read they practiced with Microsoft Flight Simulator though. Bill Gate's potential powers of observation are incredible. Unless a user turns it off, Media Player reports back to Bill's servers everything someone plays. I'd be curious to know what he knows. Also, Bill has gotten suspiciously talented at tracking down virus writers. Hmmmm.

16 posted on 12/16/2004 7:33:51 AM PST by Reeses
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To: pabianice

Fortunately, checkrides include dead panels and thus make you still be somewhat aware of your position. I lost my tray except for one old sole Narco Nav11 standalone once. I kept having to switch back and forth on stations to get a fix. It was total recall from twenty five years ago, but it comes right back.


17 posted on 12/16/2004 7:34:55 AM PST by blackdog (May Islam meet Tennyson's "Ninth Wave" in my lifetime.)
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To: American_Centurion

It is ALWAYS encrypted. The Military would have no problem shutting down only the parts civilians can decode while retaining all the other parts.


18 posted on 12/16/2004 7:35:57 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: pabianice
"....GPS was supposed to have been a add-on nav device. Predictably, it has become the sole nav device for most pilots......"

What did pilots use, say, fifty years ago? Are they not still trained in a more basic navigation system?

19 posted on 12/16/2004 7:39:31 AM PST by Victor
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The GPS signal is not one signal but several. It is true that they removed some of the built in error to the civilian signals but no all of it because there are several types of error... I should not say much about it, but the short version is they can shut it down for everyone else but them.


20 posted on 12/16/2004 7:42:16 AM PST by TalonDJ
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