Apple Releases OSX.3.7 - update.

Apple Computer ^ | 12/14/2004

[Swordmaker]

About Mac OS X Update

Mac OS X is the world’s most advanced operating system, blending the power and stability of UNIX with the legendary simplicity and ease-of-use of the Macintosh. Mac OS X version 10.3 “Panther” contains over 150 new features and provides significant enhancements to its modern, UNIX-based foundation.

What’s New in this Version

The 10.3.7 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 “Panther” and is recommended for all users.

Key enhancements include:
- improved AFP support for saving documents with long file names
- improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
- improved FireWire device compatibility
- updated Preview application
- improved compatibility for third party applications
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website:Apple Update to 10.3.7

[Izzy Dunne]

Hmm, I see, the complete Dells and HPs I see for around $400 somehow "cost" more than the $795 eMac.

Sure. Add an anti-virus program to your Dell bill. Add all the time you spend twiddling with it to your bill. If you enjoy that sort of thing, go for it! Then indeed, your time is not work, but pleasure. Me, I need to DO work on the computer, not work on the computer.

Do you get a music-making program with it, like GarageBand? Do you get a decent photo-management program? A decent music-management program? A calendar? A DVD-making program? A DVD drive, even? Add all those in..

[Izzy Dunne]

2 What are the specs? Do you not know the specs of your machine?

Yo,Ed, he didn't ask about the specs of my machine - he asked about the specs of a Mac. In general. A question just as silly as what are the specs of a Windows machine.

[Izzy Dunne]

Unfortunately none of this does enough for me to be willing to spend nearly twice as much.

So?

Don't buy one.

[Izzy Dunne]

"they're a hardware company."

Microsoft does it, so does Linux and all of it's variants, and they do it for free.

Yoo-hoo. Read it again. Apple is a HARDWARE company. Microsoft is not. Linux is not.

[Izzy Dunne]

I'm loyal to Macintosh because it's all I've ever used.

Funny, I'm loyal to Macintosh because I have to deal with Windows all the time.

[edchambers]

Yoo-hoo. Read it again. Apple is a HARDWARE company. Microsoft is not. Linux is not

Yawn, Uh no, actually they're both.

[edchambers]

Yo,Ed, he didn't ask about the specs of my machine

Ok so maybe I didn't frame the question right you could have given me some examples, like many others have.It's not like there are hundreds of different models.

[edchambers]

( Sure. Add an anti-virus program to your Dell bill.)

Why would I want to do that when AVG and Avast are FREE

Do you get a music-making program with it, like GarageBand? Do you get a decent photo-management program? A decent music-management program? A calendar? A DVD-making program? A DVD drive, even? Add all those in..

Literally every thing you mention above either came on my Dell or is readily available FOR FREE on the internet.Yes even my cheap ass Dell came with a DVDR burner.

[antiRepublicrat]

.It seems to me that people either love em or hate em but their devotion to them is almost religious.

I don't have that "Mac love." I hated the OSs 9 and before because underneath it was technologically inferior to even Windows 9x in ways (no preemptive multitasking or protected memory), and inferior to 2K in all ways (including symmetric multiprocessing). Then by 2002 their OS was good, but their processor was quite inferior to the Intel/AMD offerings because Motorola had bungled the development of the G4 chip.

I just appreciate superior technology and workmanship, and right now the Mac is in a sweet spot with a great new IBM chip with a Big Iron heritage, and the best OS on the market.

If it sounds interesting, but you're not in the market now, I'd suggest watching Mac news. Another revision of the PPC970 chip (G5) is expected next year, and it'll likely be much faster at the same clock speed due to symmetric multithreading (the technical name for Intel's Hyperthreading) and a memory controller getting put back onto the die (like the Opterons have). Right after that upgrade would be a great time to buy.

[dennisw]

Yes even my cheap ass Dell came with a DVDR burner.

Your Dell can do all of the above. As well as Apple and a lot cheaper. One merely needs to take a little initiative and intelligence as far as downloading good programs for your computer. Applying a few patches to XP. Many people should go Apple since it's more idiot proof and good for the technophobe ladies.

[Commie Basher]

Adware? Malware? Spyware?

My most important program is WordStar for DOS, which I've been using since 1986. First used it on a 4.66 Mhz XT clone running DOS 2.1, and am now running it on a Centrino 1.6 Ghz Thinkpad running Win XP Pro.

WordStar forever!

[dennisw]

The Macintosh platform is too inflexible. Why can't people just buy a bunch of random parts and assemble them, like you can with a PC?

#1 I prefer to build my own PC and do so. And load XP or Win98 into it

#2 Apple is more expensive, more idiot proof because they own the (software) OS and the (hardware) computer architecture. And make them fit together very well. But you pay more and have a lot less options. EXAMPLE: You need a DVI type LCD monitor if you want to plug it into an Apple. For a windows machine you can go the more expensive DVI route or get an analogue LCD monitor (what I use)

[Commie Basher]

I am tired of Mac users acking as if everyone who doesn't use a Mac is some type of inferior creature.

Mac users are zealots about Macs (I've never met one who wasn't). They're desperate for converts because they want to create new business for Mac -- that's how fearful they are of Mac going belly up.

[AZLiberty]

If you have a full-time student in the family, they can get a discount through the Apple Store for Education.

[Izzy Dunne]

They're desperate for converts because they want to create new business for Mac -- that's how fearful they are of Mac going belly up.

Yeah, right. Apple is a dying company. For over 28 years now, they've been dying. Keep on believing it.

Suppose the "security thru obscurity" logic is true- that there are so few Mac viruses now because there are so "few" Macs to target.
Why then would any Mac user want to recruit anyone else? Just to increase their chances of catching a virus?
Me, I don't care. If Windows is good enough for you, then have at it.

[Paridel]

Many people should go Apple since it's more idiot proof and good for the technophobe ladies.

Maybe you don't mean this, but your comment comes across as a little condescending. You can be very intelligent and know nothing about computers. That is not necessarily a bad thing! I am a computer engineer and as such am often inundated with complaints from my fellow computer engineers about how dumb the average computer user is: they can't figure out how to use anti-virus software, they can't figure out how to use ad-aware programs, install a wireless network, etc. I look at it from the other direction: why have we as an industry failed to make interfaces intuitive and consistent enough for the average person to do these things?

Again I'm parroting an earlier post of mine, but evidently it needs repeating: why should there be this expectation of the end user? MacOS X is very impressive in this sense. It has an intuitive and consistent interface, but you have the CLI for people who need more power so you don't give that up either.

Why does wanting your computer to just work, as it should, make you a technophobic lady? A computer is a tool, if you don't professionally have to understand how it works, have other hobbies that you enjoy already, and want the computer to let you do what you need without getting in your way, then buying a computer with an unobtrusive interface would in my opinion make you a savvy consumer not a Luddite.

I personally use Windows and Linux machines at home, those plus occasionally Solaris and a few other UNIX variants at work, and I'm certainly not afraid of getting my hands dirty. I have a Wallstreet G3 somewhere with OSX on it, but it is an older machine that I don't use, and I'm not even quite sure where I stuck it. So I'm not saying this as a Mac zealot.

But I am very impressed with MacOS X and the improvements Apple has been adding. I think that it is really raising the bar in a number of areas and other systems are going to follow.

-paridel

[Glenn]

that's how fearful they are of Mac going belly up

Just when you think people can't get more ignorant, along one comes.

[Paridel]

They're desperate for converts because they want to create new business for Mac -- that's how fearful they are of Mac going belly up.

I think I first heard that in 1994? Although I'm sure people have been saying it longer than that. Here is an example from 1997, I'm way too lazy to look for more, but just to show you how long people have been saying that:

1997 - BusinessWeek: APPLE IS LOOKING MIGHTY LONELY - http://www.businessweek.com/1997/05/b351227.htm

Anyway, have you looked at Apple's earning statements recently? Last time I checked every quarter this year was about twice (or more) over the year before. A lot of that is the ipod which is bringing them money hand over foot, but I wouldn't say they are exactly hurting at least for the near future.

-paridel

[dennisw]

Maybe you don't mean this, but your comment comes across as a little condescending. You can be very intelligent and know nothing about computers. That is not necessarily a bad thing! I am a computer engineer and as such am often inundated with complaints from my fellow computer engineers about how dumb the average computer user is: 

I'm convinced 80% on the internet don't know how to right click a hyperlink to open it in a new browser window. That they are constantly using the forward and backward buttons

they can't figure out how to use anti-virus software, they can't figure out how to use ad-aware programs, install a wireless network, etc. I look at it from the other direction: why have we as an industry failed to make interfaces intuitive and consistent enough for the average person to do these things?

Again I'm parroting an earlier post of mine, but evidently it needs repeating: why should there be this expectation of the end user? 

Windows (wintel machines) has one expectation and Apple another. Is this such a bad thing?

MacOS X is very impressive in this sense. It has an intuitive and consistent interface, 

Windows is supposed to be this too. My guess is the Apple GUI does it better

but you have the CLI for people who need more power so you don't give that up either.

 

[Bush2000]

Exactly what is being "marketed", Bush?

Macs. OSX. You know that. You're the biggest Mac salesman around here.