Posted on 12/15/2004 11:22:09 PM PST by yonif
(IsraelNN.com) A former senior aide to talk show host and one-time presidential candidate Pat Buchanan spoke at a meeting of Holocaust-deniers earlier this year, according to this years annual report on Holocaust-denial activity around the world.
The year-end report, Holocaust Denial: A Global Survey - 2004, has been issued by The David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies, which is located on the campus of Gratz College, near Philadelphia. The reports co-authors are Holocaust scholars Dr. Alex Grobman (author of a recent book on Holocaust denial) and Dr. Rafael Medoff (director of the Wyman Institute).
(The complete text of the Wyman Institutes report may be viewed on the Wyman Institutes website).
The report notes that Peter Gemma, a senior staff member of Pat Buchanans 2000 presidential campaign, spoke at a February 19, 2004 meeting in Virginia of the Institute for Historical Review, the leading Holocaust-denial organization in the United States. Gemma introduced the evenings keynote speaker, IHR director Mark Weber.
The association of a former Buchanan aide with Holocaust-deniers is particularly noteworthy in view of Buchanans own troubling positions concerning Hitler and the Holocaust. He has written that 850,000 Jews could not have been gassed in Treblinka because diesel engines do not emit enough carbon dioxide to kill anybody; he spoke out on behalf of accused Nazi war criminals Karl Linnas and Arthur Rudolph; he wrote columns defending Nazi death camp guard John Demjanjuk; he described Hitler as an individual of great courage; and he mocked Holocaust survivors memories as group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics. (The New Republic, Oct.15 and Oct.22, 1990) In his 1999 book, A Republic, Not an Empire, Buchanan argued that the U.S. should not have gone to war against Nazi Germany.
Other highlights of this years report:
* Holocaust-deniers in the United States continued their efforts to gain a measure of respectability in 2004, and benefited from the willingness of several individuals of prominence to associate with them. In addition to the aforementioned Peter Gemma, a newsletter edited by pundit Alexander Cockburn defended imprisoned Holocaust-denier Ernst Zundel. Also, Hutton Gibson again publicly denied the Holocaust, while his son, actor Mel Gibson, declined to clearly dissociate himself from his fathers views.
* Some Arab governments continued to actively promote Holocaust-denial in 2004, and a Holocaust-denier emerged as the leading candidate for chairmanship of the Palestinian Authority.
* A number of Western governments and other institutions took important steps against Holocaust-deniers. The Canadian government sought to deport Ernst Zundel; the government of New Zealand denied entry to David Irving; the French government brought charges against Bruno Gollnisch; Harvard University returned a gift from an Arab leader who promoted Holocaust-denial; and The Nation magazine said it would no longer accept advertisements from Holocaust-deniers. Most notably, U.S. intervention brought about the first-ever public disavowal of Holocaust-denial by an Egyptian government official.
They also buried them in mass graves. The went to incinerators when they ran out of land. And there were a lot of camps.
Cheap shots and unconnected smears.
I am not a big fan of Pat anymore (mainly for economic and populist reasons) but this drivel is only worthy of Michael Moore. I am familiar w/ most of the quotes alluded to. From what I remember, his defense of Demjanjuk was rational and conservative. This is tripe of the worst order.
This smacks of a Dershowitz hit-and-run.
For Jewish relatives of the murdered, it should be enraging to be told that they're lying when they can point to umpteen relatives that were sent to concentration camps and never came out alive.
There is a poster on this thread whom I won't name because I get the impression that the alleged 61 year-old is having organisms over all the attention. Early senile dementia is another cruel fate.:)
A little math.
I was in Lions Club with a guy who liberated a camp. They interviewed a guard who said they only killed prisoners when attrition(typhoid, dysentary, etc) didn't kill them fast enough to make room for new prisoners. After liberation, prisoners were still dying at a rate of 80 per day and that was with food and water. One of the captured guards claimed to know of 35 "labor camps" in Western Germany alone.
Let's go conservative with 35 camps averaging 100 dead per day for 4 years. 5,110,000. That's just Western Germany.
And the Nazis swept all of Europe rounding up Jews. The number of Jews who were not captured in Europe may have numbers in the few hundreds.
Six million is perfectly understandable, especially to those who saw it.
I saw Pat on C-SPAN this weekend talking about the Wannasee Conference and using the 6 million figure. No denial there.
Incoming ZOT....
Er, no. A case for that assertion could be made if Buchanan had a record of defending a wide variety of people accused of crimes. His actual record is, shall we say, more selective.
Ditto. My thoughts exactly. These idiots just can't help themselves.
Fell out of the guard tower and broke his neck, he did....
Only in that Demjanjuk was misidentified as Ivan the Terrible. He was a different guard in a different death camp.
My grandfather was the First Army IG in WWII, and one of his major tasks was to gather evidence for German war crimes. He brought home a stack of pictures from that. Among them was a whole series showing stacks of bodies, partially burned bodies in crematory ovens (they'd toss them in several at a time), and all manner of other ghastly things.
Having seen the pictures, I'm not impressed by your silly devil's advocate position.
My grandfather saw it with his own eyes, and I suspect he'd call you a fool for doubting it. The nazis were monsters, and they did what it's said they did.
LOL. Like he said, he's like his aunt. Runs in the family.
You're probably right. It's interesting that Pat wanted the Republican Party to court the Duke supporters. After all, Duke's right on some issues :
Oh yeah ya do. You'll use it to fill the the void that you have from your cold mommy and absent daddy. That's why you came here. To get attention. So sad.
I know it gets hard around the Christmas season, specially when you hear all the songs about love and warmth, something you never had.
I'm dreaming of a White Christmas.....guess who wrote that?...
A totally false statement. Guess it's time to bash Pat again.
Pat's defense rested largely on his opinion that Demjanjuk was a pretty good guy, and so what if he lied about being a prison camp guard, illegal immigrants deserve amnesty, at least a select few. Same thing Pat said about Karl Linnas and other Nazis. And no, Demjanjuk wasn't Ivan the terrible, but he was a camp guard as every court involved in the case has determined. His contension that it's a worse miscariage of justice than Alfred Dreyfus is ludicrous, Dreyfus was guilty of nothing.
I doubt you can pronounce it either. Especially with that much alcohol in your system.
His years long efforts on behalf of Karl Linnas commander of the camp at Tartu, Estonia was more revealing. He pressured Ed Meese for years to drop his deportation, then pushed for some country to grant him entry. Eventually Meese had no choice but to follow the law and deport him.
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