Posted on 12/14/2004 6:22:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
i'm not skeered!!!
;-)
I use ZoneAlarm and Opera and Lotus Notes via POP.
Not popular enough to be a prime target I guess cuz this little guy is about all I've ever seen.
OS X dittos :-)
Now if someone would just write basic office functionality into the picture like:
I get to keep my categories from Entourage to Palm
Reliable groupware for scheduling on the small network like Time and Chaos or any number of PC programs... Macs have NOTHING decent for that
Then life would be sweet indeed.
You and me both. Add virus writers into the mix and we'll have it licked. On those nights where I have a tough time falling asleep, I dream of being on a team a la Tom Clancy's 'Net Force' that hunts down spammers, adware purveyors and virus writers and takes them out with extreme prejudice, and very publicly! LOL!! Yes, my imagination gets the best of me on some of those sleepless nights! ;>))
Well Opera or Firefox will keep you away from the ANAL ActiveX
where most badstuff comes in....
Try HijackThis. It's on zdnet as a free download. It'll tell you what your computer is doing at startup. I had one of the most annoying ones pop up the other day, one of those where it looks like a regular program (innocuous name like WinClnr or something) and refuses to shut down.
I tried to shut it down manually through the task manager. No dice. So I searched for the filename, went to its folder, and changed the files' names (both the name and its .extension so the drivers would screw up :). Then I ran HijackThis (which is a little dangerous as you might accidentally disable something you need--but I ain't fubared it yet, thank goodness), and deleted startup BHOs and other related-looking stuff. Went back after a restart and deleted the renamed files and folders and that was that!
It helps to have a good idea of what regularly runs as a process and what you regularly use as a program that SHOULD be loading. The other stuff tends to stand out unless it's well disguised.
Anyway, I run that with both AdAware and Spybot if something seems funky, and it's kept my system fairly clean thus far.
Trojans are possible on Macs... they depend on users to install them. It is a "trojan horse" that, but for the user installing it, would be totally innocuous. They pretend to be (and sometime ARE) something useful... but either are totally bogus with dangerous consequences, or in the event they actually DO something useful, also carry hidden consequences.
Imagine computing for 17 years, online for 17 years, and never having had a virus, not once. Ever.
Before OSX there were 97 known viruses for the Mac. There are currently no known viruses for OSX.
Other than those two caveats, I agree with your post...
Another PC user, ignorant of Macs, opinion heard from...
Kazaa, Limeware and Morpheus are the worst offenders. Any FREE P2P sharing software is likely to come with tons of parasites hidden within the main package. But that's been an open secret with folks in the anti-spyware community for some years. I've kept scumware at arms' length by installing an IP firewall - Protowall and am going to look at Methlabs.org Peer Guardian 2.0 when it comes out. In addition, I have Norton Anti-Virus, Norton Internet Security firewall, Lavasoft Ad-Aware, Spybot's Search & Destroy, Javacool's Spyblaster, Ewido Security Suite anti-Trojan software and Pivx's Qwik-Fix anti-intrusion software to keep my computer parasite-free. And I've locked down Internet Explorer and Netscape browsers by banning malicious websites from being able to ever run on them. There is a Wild West on the Web and the better you protect yourself, the better you keep your computer and all the data on it for your own use, not that of strangers who don't necessarily have your best interests at heart.
Its worse than spam cause you can delete spam or filter it out but these trojans and nasties are almost impossible to remove once they get installed on your computer - especially CoolWebSearch, Lop, NCase2, and VX2. They install themselves deep in the bowels of Windows so that merely deleting the programs often does NOT work - the next time you reboot the scumware reinstalls itself. That's why an ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure.
That's why Linux is immune to scumware. It doesn't have a registry and doesn't leave programs lying around. If you uninstall something from Linux, its gone for good.
You can... with a good firewall. It makes sure only programs YOU approve of can access the 'Net and blocks harmful ones from coming through. If certain attacks come from a hostile IP, you can add it to your firewall's blocklist as well as Internet Explorer's Restricted Zones applet.
Have you downloaded the most recent CWS Shredder? Your version may not have caught the most recent variant of CWS.
CWS can be removed with CWS Shredder. You can get it at http://merijn.org
If you have broadband, get a hardwall firewall as well as a software one and keep both turned on.
Damn! How is Gamespy a threat? Many games, Medal of Honor, for example, use Gamespy Arcade by default to list servers to play multiplayer on.
Cause GameArcade installs unwanted scumware alongside itself, that's why. Many of these freeware applications come with things bundled you don't want and they install anyway.
Thanks for the info.
Mike Lin has some interesting stuff....you using any of it?
I'm closing down shortly , so will check back in the morning.
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